Multiple Trade Offers for Bryce

[kungfoodude]

33 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

his 2024 prorated 6m bonus is already counting in the salary cap.  converting it to dead money does not change that.  We call it dead money when the guy is gone, but before that we just call it signing bonus hitting the cap.

sportrac seems to suggest an in-season trade would not immediately accelerate the balance of dead money.  instead that would hit as dead money in 2025.  The rest of the guaranteed money is on his new team.  

I see what you are saying, essentially this is money already on the cap because it is factored in. Then the remainder hits as 2025 dead cap.

I wasn't thinking about that correctly as already being accounted for in the cap calculation. Given that, it actually would be reasonable to trade him with some limited finagling.

That being the case, they should consider a decent offer.

IMO, the ask should be a 3rd rounder. Overplaying the hand isn't really much of a risk. 4th rounders and lower are generally lower hit rate guys so the attraction to dump him for a 4th now versus a 5th or lower in the offseason isn't compelling. Wait it out until you get the price you want by the trade deadline.

We aren't in a weak position this time.

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I see what you are saying, essentially this is money already on the cap because it is factored in. Then the remainder hits as 2025 dead cap.

I wasn't thinking about that correctly as already being accounted for in the cap calculation. Given that, it actually would be reasonable to trade him with some limited finagling.

That being the case, they should consider a decent offer.

IMO, the ask should be a 3rd rounder. Overplaying the hand isn't really much of a risk. 4th rounders and lower are generally lower hit rate guys so the attraction to dump him for a 4th now versus a 5th or lower in the offseason isn't compelling. Wait it out until you get the price you want by the trade deadline.

We aren't in a weak position this time.

Wait, wait....this is still not correct. The prorated amount on the 2024 cap is literally the 2nd year amount. He still has two years left on the deal. By rule, the dead cap for those last two years accelerates on to the current year(2024) and the following(2025). So it is an ADDITIONAL hit this league year. Just think of it as him being cut post June 1st(essentially what this is minus the actual base salary hit). 

[Jackie Lee]

He's already getting $8.6M this year as it stands, trading him would have the other team paying for his last 7 games which we would probably just break even with signing a guy to replace him. It frees up that $475k the trading team would be paying for.