Pats legend Cam Newton speaks on the Panthers benching Bryce Young

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51 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, Bryce is in an O system that no one would claim fits him until it’s what we had.    Football is about fit at the NFL level 

in seasons worth of games he has had multiple HCs, OCs, playcallers, scheme and talent around him.  Paying 2 OGs doesn’t erase the mess they did to him.  And neither HC embraced a unicorn QB. Frank did what Frank does and Canales is the same. 

Young shouldn’t of been drafted but at the same time the Panthers have done every thing they could to get the worst out of him 

Lord lord lord. He couldn’t run the offense they built after asking him what plays he liked from Alabama. 

The speed is too much for him. He thinks he can run away from people but defensive linemen catch him from behind.

We will never know but I’d bet you if you stick him back on Alabama he looks the same as he did when he won player of the year.

  IOW he would have plenty of confidence if you put back down playing against guys who 70% of them won’t be drafted   And are just college guys  

If I am pissed at Tepper it isn’t for ruining a guy who was not good enough in the first place. It is for taking him.
It is for that desperate trade.

It is for the different QB per year which now, he still has his streak intact, which is kind of noteworthy. Counting the remnants of Cam in 2019 this is year 6. How about that.  

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[CRA]

38 minutes ago, strato said:

Lord lord lord. He couldn’t run the offense they built after asking him what plays he liked from Alabama. 

The speed is too much for him. He thinks he can run away from people but defensive linemen catch him from behind.

We will never know but I’d bet you if you stick him back on Alabama he looks the same as he did when he won player of the year.

  IOW he would have plenty of confidence if you put back down playing against guys who 70% of them won’t be drafted   And are just college guys  

If I am pissed at Tepper it isn’t for ruining a guy who was not good enough in the first place. It is for taking him.
It is for that desperate trade.

It is for the different QB per year which now, he still has his streak intact, which is kind of noteworthy. Counting the remnants of Cam in 2019 this is year 6. How about that.  

Yeah, the whole bologna entering a season people always run with.  This offense was not made for Bryce Young nor should it have been.  And you can’t just dismiss the chaos and then lack of work that existed before the season kicked off. 

again, Bryce Young stinks.  And then, at the same time, everything Carolina did since they drafted him ensured they would get the least amount out of him they could.  Two things can be true. 

we have been here repeatedly.  Where one part of the problem is treated as the problem….despite it being painfully clear Bryce is far from the singular issue.  

We worked ourselves into the worst team in all of pro sports WITHOUT Bryce.  Does no good to let all the other clowns not named Bryce off the hook.   Everyone here once blamed it all on Teddy or all on Joe Brady or all on Rhule or all on Fitterer or all on Frank and now all on Bryce. Same pattern 

[d-dave]

Honestly, this is just a popular narrative.  Tepper is a reviled owner in the NFL.  He's a giant douchebag of a human being.  Everyone should take their shots at him.  He can wipes his tears with his billions.

Here's what I have learned from the last few days of sports media hot takes.

1. Bryce is a really nice, likeable kid who is a hard worker.

2. Bryce is extremely religious, which must play well with Canales and Idzik.

3. Bryce has played like putrid poo this season.  Last season there were more problems that weren't Bryce problems.  This season, we don't know enough yet.

4. Tepper has made the Carolina Panthers into a complete shitshow of an organization.  The buck has to stop at the owner.

So where does that leave us?  We still have to play Sunday.  Bryce could have to go back in if something happens to Andy.  That's just the way it is.

I was listening to Dominique Foxworth's podcast (while waiting in line) and he said something very important (he's a smart guy, I liked his show) about beating the Cover 2 defense: Grab your nuts and make a play.  That's what Bryce needs to do.  If he can't, then he doesn't belong.  That's just how it goes.

Personally, I hope that Bryce is able to take some time, put his big ole brain to good use, and get right.  I want us to have a good QB. I want Bryce to make plays.

But if he just can't, it's time to move on.  Though I'd like to see the Panthers slow the F down and let a bridge QB (Dalton or whoever) start for a year and give the rookie a chance to learn how the NFL works instead of trotting them out unprepared for live NFL games against grown men.

 

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, strato said:

Nah. He would have to include Bryce in being part of the problem or I can’t take him seriously, best Panthers QB ever or not.

  With this kind of talk, he is a guy with an axe to grind who is incapable of looking at things impartially. 
 

Cam? 

WTFE. 

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2 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Cam? 

WTFE. 

I need to explain that? Okay, one more time:

Cam has an axe to grind. It is known, through other comments and just watching his relationship with the team since Tepper. 

He does not address Bryce's play specifically, just leans into the same stuff of blaming the team, they didn't do enough etc etc

Read or listen to him don't trust me to accurately quote him. 

Until he includes Bryce's responsibility in the situation, he is just axe grinding and not really giving a fair assessment. 

That is what I am saying.