Brees and Payton template for Young

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

When we signed Lewis and Hunt and moved Corbett to G, that was based on the Brees/Payton model.

exactly, but Brees was an actual pocket player.....and Brees didn't have opposing defenses squatting and sitting on the pass game. 

Bryce isn't a pocket QB and he doesn't have an arm to make all the throws in the NFL. 

I think in hindsight, Brees is a lazy comparison we all got sucked into. Yes, Brees wasn't very big.  But the comp ends there. 

[Shotgun]

19 minutes ago, CRA said:

when things get compressed in the pocket, he can't see like others.  Plays and routes that exist (hot stuff too), do not exist for him. 

Not a huge difference.

[t96]

36 minutes ago, PanthersGTI said:

I am with you. I still think if he were able to put it all together it would look good. I just don't think he is mentally strong enough. Hes got no dog in him, just a laid back Cali kid who has always been in positive situations. Not that there is anything wrong with that inherently, you can only face adversary when it presents itself. Its how you respond that matters. I think a big flag pointing to this is the fact that the biggest "adversity" his father could point to was moving from CA to Alabama.  

I got poo'd like crazy for criticizing his "Cali attitude" last year lol, but yeah I agree.

[Jackie Lee]

 

[CRA]

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

 

now give everyone a matching buzz cut

[csx]

Brees just had a better understanding of the game and was aggressive and not scared to pull the trigger.  He had "it". 

[ClawOn]

Brees was recognizing undisguised blitzes in his rookie year. By 18 games? Haha come on

[CC Rider]

Don't get distracted by the hair... look at the difference in where the eyes are...

 

Edited 1 hour ago by CC Rider

[X-Clown]

It wasn’t even just Brees playing badly and then magically turning into an HOF QB with Payton. He struggled his first 2 years as a starter with SD, but then made the Pro Bowl in his 3rd year, led SD to a 12-4 record and a division title. 

[strato]

3 hours ago, Jmac said:

So kick a 1st rnd pick to the curb instead of seeing what has worked with other QB's with his stature and arm strength......yes, this poo again 

It is a nice try from the team but you can't expect the same results.

With Brees we are talking about a guy that was still a high level payer just with a diminished arm. Same reason Cam would be better with his diminished arm than. (Young) Points off for a guy who won't even use the pocket, too. 

Plus, the Brees comp is a false positive so to speak. If you honestly factor their weight and height Brees is as close to 6'2 225 as he is to 5'10" 184, totally different class, size wise.  He is right in the middle. 

 

Edited 7 minutes ago by strato