Would quarterbacks avoid Carolina Panthers in NFL Draft?

[PleaseCutStewart]

4 hours ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Not the worst idea. The only things we seem to draft well are lbs and rbs.

We haven't done too bad with CBs also

[cardiackat88.]

Andrew Luck "stayed in school another year" to avoid coming to Carolina.

[HPPantherzfan]

I am still just flabbergasted that some of these so called experts continue on with how we did Bryce.  It is straight up simple, he sucks!  It has nothing to do with the talent around him, nothing, if he were on the 49'ers guess what?  He would still suck!  He just isn't an NFL QB, there is nothing he has shown to prove otherwise.  H3ll a broken clock is right twice a DAY, Bryce hasn't been right twice in over a year, he is JUST NOT GOOD!

But on topic, no, no QB is going to do this

• If I recall correctly the whole Eli thing wasn't because Eli didn't want to play there it was because his dad had beef with the Chargers front office.
• There has now, nor ever been proof that Andrew Luck stayed in school an extra year to avoid us and if he did, that was under a different regime

Any QB that belongs in the number 1 pick, and I'm sure even Bryce was of this mindset, has to come in knowing they are on the worst team in the NFL and believing they can change that.

[Gapanthersfan]

The media shot callers need a narrative to cover that they got it completely wrong. They crowned him and in reality he is laughably bad. It exposed them for the echo chamber yes men lemmings that they really are. They take their marching orders and report as ordered until the narrative is allowed to change from their shot callers. Anything that paints one of the chosen CFB programs negatively is never going to be a headline.

Don’t expect it to change in to an ‘our bad’ we got it wrong any time soon, at least on the big stage. 

Our line may start getting some credence eventually but the Bryce turmoil may need to simmer down first. 

[csx]

They don't really have a choice

[PleaseCutStewart]

1 hour ago, cardiackat88. said:

Andrew Luck "stayed in school another year" to avoid coming to Carolina.

And he made it to all of 0 superb owls with Indy, so not sure that paid off too well for him

[AggieLean]

There’s quite a few teams they need to boycott then. Most teams drafting at the top are questionable organizations. 
 

Just a bunch of media heads who can’t admit they were wrong about Bryce. Hell, most of us who actually watch the games knew Bryce wasn’t it or going to work out around game 3 or 4 last year. If he was worth a damn, he would’ve shown some flashes last year. He had a good 4th qtr against the Packers last year. That’s it. 

Edited September 19 by AggieLean

[bandu]

lat time I remember this actually happening was in the early  80's when John Elway said he would go play for the NY Yankess before he would suit up &  play for the Baltimore Colts 

Edited September 19 by bandu

[BrisbanePanther]

1 hour ago, AggieLean said:

Just a bunch of media heads who can’t admit they were wrong about Bryce. 

I know this is a popular cope on this forum, but I think it's a cynical take.

True--they could all be covering for being wrong about Bryce, but they're wrong about other prospects and deals and those franchises don't draw the ire that's been directed at Charlotte.

Also true--the Carolina Panthers has been one of the worst run mom-and-pop franchises in modern US sports history. The Panthers are such as easy target that the media can loudly point at the franchises track record (especially with Tepper) and no one will contradict them...because they kinda can't.

Let's face it. Our franchise is mediocre trash, and other than lucking into a few decent seasons outside the Cam years, has usually been mediocre trash in a market most media types don't care about. Doesn't excuse Bryce, but easily explains why all but a handful of media types point at the team and not the player. Easy pickins.

[SOJA]

No one this year besides maybe Sanders would refuse to be number one overall, none of the guys warrant it at this point imo

[AggieLean]

1 hour ago, BrisbanePanther said:

I know this is a popular cope on this forum, but I think it's a cynical take.

True--they could all be covering for being wrong about Bryce, but they're wrong about other prospects and deals and those franchises don't draw the ire that's been directed at Charlotte.

Also true--the Carolina Panthers has been one of the worst run mom-and-pop franchises in modern US sports history. The Panthers are such as easy target that the media can loudly point at the franchises track record (especially with Tepper) and no one will contradict them...because they kinda can't.

Let's face it. Our franchise is mediocre trash, and other than lucking into a few decent seasons outside the Cam years, has usually been mediocre trash in a market most media types don't care about. Doesn't excuse Bryce, but easily explains why all but a handful of media types point at the team and not the player. Easy pickins.

I agree. The panthers, in its current state, is a trash bag organization. It’s horribly ran, and has been for some time. 
 

Bryce Young seems to be a good person. He’s not a good player, though. It’s been apparent for awhile that he wasn’t good or ever gonna be good. The panthers, and how they’ve been ran, exposed that quickly

Edited September 19 by AggieLean

[strato]

7 hours ago, HPPantherzfan said:

I am still just flabbergasted that some of these so called experts continue on with how we did Bryce.  It is straight up simple, he sucks!  It has nothing to do with the talent around him, nothing, if he were on the 49'ers guess what?  He would still suck!  He just isn't an NFL QB, there is nothing he has shown to prove otherwise.  H3ll a broken clock is right twice a DAY, Bryce hasn't been right twice in over a year, he is JUST NOT GOOD!

But on topic, no, no QB is going to do this

• If I recall correctly the whole Eli thing wasn't because Eli didn't want to play there it was because his dad had beef with the Chargers front office.
• There has now, nor ever been proof that Andrew Luck stayed in school an extra year to avoid us and if he did, that was under a different regime

Any QB that belongs in the number 1 pick, and I'm sure even Bryce was of this mindset, has to come in knowing they are on the worst team in the NFL and believing they can change that.

Except we weren't the worst team in the NFL in 2022, were the 9th worst record. Close to the TOP of the bottom third.

We got a whole lot worse drafting him and sending DJ away. And the injured guards up front took us down. 

IOW I don't think that is really that big of an excuse for him. And have no argument on his lack of NFL aptitude. He comes up short! 

We don't have a lot of time to enjoy our short puns... use them up. 

Edited September 19 by strato

[CarolinaRideorDie]

If one of you guys were a QB in next years draft, would you guys want to come here with the lack of organization and plan? It's your NFL career, they may pay you a lot of money to be #1 pick, but you also don't want to flame out in 1.5 years and not get a chance to prove yourself anymore. What kind of questions would you ask Dan and Dave when you sit for 1 on 1 interviews at the combine? If I was a top QB, I wouldn't come here. 

[strato]

1 hour ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

If one of you guys were a QB in next years draft, would you guys want to come here with the lack of organization and plan? It's your NFL career, they may pay you a lot of money to be #1 pick, but you also don't want to flame out in 1.5 years and not get a chance to prove yourself anymore. What kind of questions would you ask Dan and Dave when you sit for 1 on 1 interviews at the combine? If I was a top QB, I wouldn't come here. 

Well, if I had a brain that could think and reason properly and take in information, I would know that the people coaching me are not the people that brought all that dysfunction to the Panthers. 

That's one thing. The other is you could ruin your career if you grandstand like that and don't back it up by being hot poo. 

There are a lot of angles.