Would quarterbacks avoid Carolina Panthers in NFL Draft?

[CamWhoaaCam]

Sanders and Manning are the only QB's who I think would legit not play here due to their family and they happen to both have power.

 

Any other QB would be fine coming here.

 

Saying that I don't want a QB. We need to trade back and collect assets. We have a lot of holes to fill. Add some talent worry about QB down the line.

[strato]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Sanders and Manning are the only QB's who I think would legit not play here due to their family and they happen to both have power.

 

Any other QB would be fine coming here.

 

Saying that I don't want a QB. We need to trade back and collect assets. We have a lot of holes to fill. Add some talent worry about QB down the line.

Trading back from 1, or 2, and trading back into the round later or having one of those picks included in the deal, getting your QB a little further down, would be something I would feel decent about. Plenty of guys have worked out that were taken later. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, strato said:

Trading back from 1, or 2, and trading back into the round later or having one of those picks included in the deal, getting your QB a little further down, would be something I would feel decent about. Plenty of guys have worked out that were taken later. 

Agreed.

[Day1PanthersFan]

7 minutes ago, strato said:

 Plenty of guys have worked out that were taken later. 

Let's not forget Tom Brady was selected in the 6th round during a commercial 

The draft is a crap shoot

[strato]

47 minutes ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

Let's not forget Tom Brady was selected in the 6th round during a commercial 

The draft is a crap shoot

That stuff is rare but really, do the trade value chart on what we paid for Bryce.

I looked at at one that had 199 valued at 5 points, the 1st overall at 1000.

Meaning you have 200 tries with the 199 vs 1 shot with the 1.

Now if you have the stomach, I don't, do the rest of that trade for Bryce even devaluing the future year picks by a full round the number of times that can be devided by 5 - would be staggering. 

Use pick 33 if you want, the point is we paid an insane amount and could have had many multiples of the 33rd instead. Whee do you think the value is? Not up top. 

 

Edited September 20 by strato

[Jmac]

Meh. Going to an NFL team to make big money is a tempting thing to pass up. Unless your Manning and daddy says no way, most players will go for it.

[CPF4LIFE]

Stuff like this makes you appreciate Cam newton more and we still found a way to do him dirty. Luckily Cam forgave.

[*FreeFua*]

1 hour ago, strato said:

Plenty of guys have worked out that were taken later. 

Because they’re not going to the dog sh!t organizations/teams and are given the time to develop properly 

[strato]

40 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Because they’re not going to the dog sh!t organizations/teams and are given the time to develop properly 

You want to spell that out? Is that referring to our current situation as a coaching based deficiency regarding Young? As if he really could have any other result given his quantifyables. 

I am not sure exactly how far you are taking this.

I was going to post this because it has some unattributed content that the members have gone round and round over. I found it to be worth listening to.

 

[*FreeFua*]

8 hours ago, strato said:

You want to spell that out? Is that referring to our current situation as a coaching based deficiency regarding Young? As if he really could have any other result given his quantifyables. 

I am not sure exactly how far you are taking this.

I was going to post this because it has some unattributed content that the members have gone round and round over. I found it to be worth listening to.

 

Team who are drafting later are typically the better run organizations. 

Better organization = better team = better situation for a QB drafted by that team 

I wanted Jordan Love in the 2020 draft and I would’ve taken him at 7. I guarantee Jordan Love would be either out of the league right now or going on a back-up tour had we drafted him. Instead he goes to GB and gets to sit and properly develop and is now a franchise QB 

Edited September 20 by *FreeFua*

[Barney]

The national narrative around this seems more like Tepper hate than anything else.  If you go back and watch game film, Bryce is not seeing the field.  Canales play design has receivers open, but Bryce is not seeing them, getting antsy and immediately looking for his check down.  That combined with his lack of arm strength is making things extremely tough on him.  His lack of height and not being able to see or throw above the line at times is also compounding things. I am not sure he will ever be any good, but what I see right now is that he is not ready to start.  The narrative is look at how good Baker and Darnold are after they left, which is a freaking joke.  Maybe just maybe they were not ready to start when they were thrown into those roles either.  Jordan Love was not ready, but he was not forced into action either.  He was able to sit learn and digest the game and when his time came he looks like he was ready.   Was drafting Young #1 a mistake, I think probably so and that falls on Tepper and Fitt for sure.  If we are bring honest Stroud is the exception when it comes to rookie performance.  Very few rookies come out and play like he played his first year.  

[jd12099]

Not your question but honestly if we end up with #1, we need to trade down. This team is not competitive in the first two games (might change this sunday but as of right now no).

 

[Verge]

I don't think it's outside the realm of possibilities. With NIL deals how they are today why would a top notch quarterback knowingly declare for the draft if Carolina holds the top pick. If anything you risk losing money given how the Bryce Young experiment played out. Obviously nothing in this league is guaranteed but it's not far fetched to think that a player would not want to come to what is easily the worst team in the league for a QB to go until proven otherwise.  

[frankw]

I really like Sanders potential but man his leadership is abysmal. He is going to have to humble himself or be humbled and if it's the latter and doesn't happen until he gets to the NFL it could get ugly.

Arch Manning is a pipedream for the Panthers no matter how you look at it and honestly as far as I'm concerned there is zero love for the Manning's anyways. The whole talk around him reminds me of Suck for Luck. Another pipe dream people should remember well.

At the end of the day 9 times out of 10 if you draft a QB in the first or anywhere else they are going to be excited simply to be drafted regardless of the reputation of the destination.

I'm seeing a notion that rookie QB's like Stroud are a rarity and that's too early to say. The issue with that is not many people believed in him to be what he is now. Many viewed him as a player that would need to be developed over time slowly. But for teams looking at QB's going forward it would be wise to identify some things about Stroud not just in his physical tools that everyone saw on tape but his approach his mentality and his personality that all came together to form the QB he is today.