Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Bryce’s Footwork

Cover2Safety33

By Cover2Safety33,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Cover2Safety33 Newbie

Cover2Safety33

Posted
Posted

I remember all offseason hearing about the work Canales was doing to retool Bryce’s footwork. Which was a bit weird since Canales was initially complimentary of his footwork when hired. Given how much worse Bryce looks this season compared to last, especially his footwork, how much blame does Canales bear for the regression of #9?

 

I see so many other things wrong with Bryce’s play, but footwork is fundamental for a QB. If his footwork was changed, and he’s having to think too much about that fundamental, the rest of his game is going to suffer. I never saw his stupid jump pass before this year, so something must’ve introduced that idiocy to his game.

 

Basically, my question is whether our QB whisperer coach put an end to Bryce’s career with this offseason focus on footwork?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tr3ach Grand Master

Tr3ach

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, Cover2Safety33 said:

I remember all offseason hearing about the work Canales was doing to retool Bryce’s footwork. Which was a bit weird since Canales was initially complimentary of his footwork when hired. Given how much worse Bryce looks this season compared to last, especially his footwork, how much blame does Canales bear for the regression of #9?

 

I see so many other things wrong with Bryce’s play, but footwork is fundamental for a QB. If his footwork was changed, and he’s having to think too much about that fundamental, the rest of his game is going to suffer. I never saw his stupid jump pass before this year, so something must’ve introduced that idiocy to his game.

 

Basically, my question is whether our QB whisperer coach put an end to Bryce’s career with this offseason focus on footwork?

0.  That's why Canales learned Bryce is unfixable.   He literally has to have terrible footwork.   It's how he has to try to compensate for being too short to see over the line.  He has no other choice.  Then the fact he has to have bad footwork puts all his throw power on his already below average arm.

  • Pie 2
  • Flames 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
thennek Experienced

thennek

Posted
Posted

If I recall correctly, footwork was something that came up last year under Reich.  I am going by memory, but I think it was along the lines of 'we plan to address this in the offseason'.  Reich was fired not long after.  Does BY have bad footwork due to him over-compensating for his size?  He definitely has happy feet as he clearly is not comfortable in the pocket.  Canales seems like a very positive coach, it would hard to believe he is the reason BY is worse but I supposed if BY always had bad footwork, he may not have felt comfortable changing it.   And if Canales really was working on footwork, it did not improve....at all.   I do think Canales should have played him in pre-season and that was a big miss.  I think there is a lot more to this story than we know.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bear Hands Grand Master

Bear Hands

Posted
Posted

Bryce’s footwork looks the same as last season. He slowly backs up parallel to the LOS and then goes into a tip toe shuffle. 

There’s no retooling of footwork, there’s a way you should dropback to maximize leverage, upper body strength and throwing velocity, and he doesn’t do it. And it appears can’t be coached into doing it either.

If he simply sticks with what he’s comfortable with then he should be in the CFL because you can’t do that, at his size, in the NFL.

  • Pie 4
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
raleigh-panther Grand Master

raleigh-panther

Posted
Posted (edited)

It is really fairly simple why he looks worse 

yes his footwork is bad. Yes he is small. Yes his field vision is poor 

nfl defenses have the book on him  now based on the film

there are some routes he simply cannot throw

DCs  know this and sit on the few routes he can and stop the run game also

no reason to guard mid or long  range throws because he can’t do them 

this offense cannot function with him in it 

no different than Reich’s   He is a pro offense killer

No one finished him. He is a bad design and fit for the nfl and the book is out

i mean, a fingernail takes him down, if he doesn’t run into his own lineman 

Edited by raleigh-panther
  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Canales has very heavy "yes" man vibes, IMO. I hope he isn't like that behind the scenes.

I think Canales' main reason he got the job.....is because of the work he can put in behind a podium.  I think that's really why Tepper hired him.  Main reason Ron Rivera got hired in DC IMO was because they needed the boxes he checked publicly as they endured what they were going through. 

He is polished and says all the nothingness in a manner Tepper probably has been dying for.  Rhule was horrible behind the mic.  Frank was horrible behind the mic.  Canales can get up their and sing and dance and say whatever needs to be said in the moment. 

The whole positive of Canales and there really was only ONE primary one we were sold.....has already been flushed down the toilet. 

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
frankw Grand Master

frankw

Posted
Posted

There is no coach who is going to fix his "footwork" because it is ingrained in him as how he compensates for his physical limitations.

All this talk of what he does outside the pocket is because he cannot function within the pocket and no QB is ever going to be successful in this league that way.

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Johnstonny Veteran

Johnstonny

Posted
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Cover2Safety33 said:

I remember all offseason hearing about the work Canales was doing to retool Bryce’s footwork. Which was a bit weird since Canales was initially complimentary of his footwork when hired. Given how much worse Bryce looks this season compared to last, especially his footwork, how much blame does Canales bear for the regression of #9?

 

I see so many other things wrong with Bryce’s play, but footwork is fundamental for a QB. If his footwork was changed, and he’s having to think too much about that fundamental, the rest of his game is going to suffer. I never saw his stupid jump pass before this year, so something must’ve introduced that idiocy to his game.

 

Basically, my question is whether our QB whisperer coach put an end to Bryce’s career with this offseason focus on footwork?

Would really like an accurate account of exactly how much work Bryce put in this past offseason.....those accounts are as rare as wins are here.

Edited by Johnstonny
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • mav1234
      Gameday Thread: KC-CAR

      By mav1234 · Posted

      KC has a very good defense this year. It is 5th overall. Yes, still worse than last year, but their offense is considerably worse. Their passing D may be their "weakness" but they still allow fewer than 20 ppg. BY completed several deep passes yesterday, and he was able to threaten downfield in ways he didn't seem capable of before the benching. I'm not necessarily worried about his ability to connect deep anymore. What to me was impressive was that he did all this without a run game. We used the pass to set up what little running success we had. Wild.
    • Bear Hands
      Bryce developing before our eyes

      By Bear Hands · Posted

      Solid and fair assessment.   I will say, one of the big things I noticed yesterday was that he wasn't shy to step up into the pocket in the face of pressure.  He's trusting the IOL.  And they took care of Chris Jones yesterday.  We had clean pockets but also good success rate vs. pressure which just hasn't been the case with Bryce.   If he has more confidence the OL gets it done and he can navigate and step up for throws, that's huge.  It's one of the biggest things that's held him back.  He was previously bailing quickly and just too easily throwing away or making dead plays.     He was finding his 2nd to 3rd reads within structure/without bailing in the pocket.  That was nice to see, as much concern I have with him.  And the overall limitations will always be there. Time to back it up this week against the Bucs.  
    • 45catfan
      Some Thoughts on Our Remaining Games

      By 45catfan · Posted

      Suddenly the Cowgirls look like our best chance for a win remaining. I think the Bucs are playing better than the Falcons of late.  Our lone game versus the dirty birds is in the ATL where we always struggle.  The Cardinals are marginally better than I thought they would be. We are not beating the Eagles, they are starting to roll. I'm saying two at most, next week at home versus the Bucs and the Cowgirls.
×
×
  • Create New...