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Tr3ach Grand Master

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8 minutes ago, strato said:

You can't realistically evaluate Morgan on much because he was given a mandate.

Job one, two and three was Bryce support and evaluation. It distorted the vision of the way forward.

I didn't believe it took that to see what Young has. But I understand the thinking because you have to get Tepper off of him and that apparently is what it would take - that level of help and the same results from the QB.

Bottom line is you can't evaluate any of it until you remove Young from the equation and get back to NFL standards. 

 

Even his draft of players to surround Bryce with this past draft are looking horrible.  None of them pass the eye test of being difference makers so far.   Hopefully that will change but I wasn't a fan of the draft at all at the time and I'm still not.  Coker shows the most promise of any of our younger wr and he wasn't even drafted.

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You shouldn't judge him by a move that all of his bosses wanted to happen. It wasn't his call and all we know is what has been said publicly. He affirmed his bosses' choice.

I really don't believe if Morgan had autonomy he would have come to that place on Young. The guy played in the league against legit QBs and probably took one look at Young and the opinions he was hearing and thought... "wow, really? This is what I am dealing with here?". 

Keep your gig or make a stand. My inability to do stuff like that, is why I never would have survived in the corporate suit world. But people do that all the time. 

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19 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Even his draft of players to surround Bryce with this past draft are looking horrible.  None of them pass the eye test of being difference makers so far.   Hopefully that will change but I wasn't a fan of the draft at all at the time and I'm still not.  Coker shows the most promise of any of our younger wr and he wasn't even drafted.

I don't agree the offensive players were his choice, when his head coach has a total offensive background and given the situation.

I view it like... FA, Morgan's job on Offensive guys was probably the nuts and bolts, the mechanics of making the trade or deal or signing happen. Seeing if we could swing it, having discussions about it with Canales, Tilis, and Tepper too no doubt. 

He would have done the wheeling and dealing and turning the cards in to make those things happen. But would you ask him or would you ask Canales who is building the offense, to choose offensive players? I mean, Canales all the way for me.

Defensive players, Canales probably wouldn't overrule Morgan. Now, it was apparent that he was indulging Evero on some of those acquisitions. But isn't he sort of supposed to collaborate with the coaches in charge of that side of the ball? 

Wallace looked not too great yesterday but he was really thrown into a raging fire, so I am not out on him. But I was irritated and dismayed at his seeming lack of disappointment in the loss when I saw his postgame locker room minutes. 

I need to see things with Young out of the picture and not influencing every fuging decision. 

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22 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Even his draft of players to surround Bryce with this past draft are looking horrible.  None of them pass the eye test of being difference makers so far.   Hopefully that will change but I wasn't a fan of the draft at all at the time and I'm still not.  Coker shows the most promise of any of our younger wr and he wasn't even drafted.

XL looks horrible?

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