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First 17 NFL QB Starts


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5 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

After this week, our schedule has some teams that are underperforming/with big question marks.

Raiders, Bengals, Bears, Falcons & Commanders.  If we lose through that and he's 2-21 on his career, and we're 0-7, it could very well be the lowest this franchise has ever been.  

Every one of those teams will pummel us... 

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Panthers should have just pulled the no brainer move that fell into their laps. 

Drafted Justin Fields at 8.  Kept CMC . Kept DJ Moore.  Kept their draft picks.  NFL is way too hard to think you are the smartest guy and the room and can trade away everyone and everything for a dude.  

yeah, we might not of solved the puzzle doing that….but it would have been a more fun ride and more enjoyable team to watch.  And probably not the worst in all of pro sports 

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9 minutes ago, CRA said:

Panthers should have just pulled the no brainer move that fell into their laps. 

Drafted Justin Fields at 8.  Kept CMC . Kept DJ Moore.  Kept their draft picks.  NFL is way too hard to think you are the smartest guy and the room and can trade away everyone and everything for a dude.  

yeah, we might not of solved the puzzle doing that….but it would have been a more fun ride and more enjoyable team to watch.  And probably not the worst in all of pro sports 

Bro Justin fields sucks. He may be a worse passer than Bryce. The no brainer was not passing on Justin Herbert. 

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10 minutes ago, CRA said:

Panthers should have just pulled the no brainer move that fell into their laps. 

Drafted Justin Fields at 8.  Kept CMC . Kept DJ Moore.  Kept their draft picks.  NFL is way too hard to think you are the smartest guy and the room and can trade away everyone and everything for a dude.  

yeah, we might not of solved the puzzle doing that….but it would have been a more fun ride and more enjoyable team to watch.  And probably not the worst in all of pro sports 

That Horn draft screwed the pooch. Think it was pick 9 though. Heck, I would’ve been thrilled with Slater or Devonta that draft (those were my faves at the time) or possibly Parsons. 

 It yeah if Field, we could’ve already realized to move on from him by now and landed a guy in this past draft. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Bro Justin fields sucks. He may be a worse passer than Bryce. The no brainer was not passing on Justin Herbert. 

Ok. But that’s not a rebuttal of the point.  Still better than Young….and you keep CMC, DJ Moore and a bunch of draft picks.   

and the team would have been more fun to watch on top of that. 

and if Fields sucked here (not Bryce suck mind you)….you draft again.  But you still have all your studs and draft picks. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

That Horn draft screwed the pooch. Think it was pick 9 though. Heck, I would’ve been thrilled with Slater or Devonta that draft (those were my faves at the time) or possibly Parsons. 

 It yeah if Field, we could’ve already realized to move on from him by now and landed a guy in this past draft. 

 

That was the birth of the Seattle fixation IMO.   

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30 minutes ago, CRA said:

Panthers should have just pulled the no brainer move that fell into their laps. 

Drafted Justin Fields at 8.  Kept CMC . Kept DJ Moore.  Kept their draft picks.  NFL is way too hard to think you are the smartest guy and the room and can trade away everyone and everything for a dude.  

yeah, we might not of solved the puzzle doing that….but it would have been a more fun ride and more enjoyable team to watch.  And probably not the worst in all of pro sports 

Of all the things we could and should have done you choose draft Justin Fields

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10 minutes ago, CRA said:

Ok. But that’s not a rebuttal of the point.  Still better than Young….and you keep CMC, DJ Moore and a bunch of draft picks.   

and the team would have been more fun to watch on top of that. 

and if Fields sucked here (not Bryce suck mind you)….you draft again.  But you still have all your studs and draft picks. 

 

The moral of it boils down to don't mortgage your future on a crapshoot. One pick will not kill you.

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34 minutes ago, CRA said:

Panthers should have just pulled the no brainer move that fell into their laps. 

Drafted Justin Fields at 8.  Kept CMC . Kept DJ Moore.  Kept their draft picks.  NFL is way too hard to think you are the smartest guy and the room and can trade away everyone and everything for a dude.  

yeah, we might not of solved the puzzle doing that….but it would have been a more fun ride and more enjoyable team to watch.  And probably not the worst in all of pro sports 

Not seeing a path to success in those moves, TBH.

I don't think it would have been a very fun team to watch either. It wasn't much fun to watch CMC and Moore rack up stats while losing 10+ games a year. It was false hope.

The root of all of this is the ownership. A capable and knowledgeable owner wouldn't have constant FO and coaching turnover that leads to what he saw.

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6 minutes ago, PantherKyle said:

Of all the things we could and should have done you choose draft Justin Fields

Yeah, because it’s not so much about Fields.  It’s about not being stupid and thinking you are a genius that can out think the random lottery that is the draft with crazy and dumb moves. 

so you if you need a young QB you draft one where you can….and you then get to keep CMC, DJ Moore and a bunch of draft picks that help make your team better.  So when Fields isn’t what you wanted him to be….you are in a much better place than we are today. 

* it’s not actually about Fields.  

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