Jay Gruden on Bryce Young: He looks small and plays small

[Jackie Lee]

6 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

He's not about to bench press 155 in front of everyone.

During his offseason presser where he talked about the Netflix and all that, he also said he doesn't bench, would do him no good as a qb. 

[tukafan21]

10 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Tall and fast WRs are in every draft.

 

If your guy is the best WR he will prove it on tape. He had a bad game that's fair. Hopefully those bad games don't become a trend throughout the year. I will be watching tomorrow night that's a fox game.

T-Mac's tape >>>>>>> Hunter's WR tape, it's really not even close if you're only looking at Hutner's offensive side of the ball

Hunter has 92 rec for 1,153 yards, and 12 TDs in his entire career... T-Mac had 90 for 1,402, and 10 just last season alone... with tape that's littered with highlight reel catch after highlight reel catch.

Hunter is a better CB prospect than a WR (and even then, when they played last season, Hunter covered T-Mac and he got torched for 9 rec, 107 yards, and a TD by T-Mac

And saying "tall and fast WRs are in every draft" is just stupid... there are more short/fast WRs in a draft than tall/fast.  Plus, his hands, catch radius, and ability to "moss" DB's are his best attributes, not his speed.  Which again isn't a knock on his speed, but he's not a Quentin Johnston last draft where he's just a big speedster with nothing else and is already looking like a bust.

[PNW_PantherMan]

33 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

During his offseason presser where he talked about the Netflix and all that, he also said he doesn't bench, would do him no good as a qb. 

He's not wrong but I bet Tom is way stronger.

 

[Jackie Lee]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

He's not wrong but I bet Tom is way stronger.

 

Hey I know it's not necessarily related to arm strength, but getting finger tackled by linemen and not being able to qb sneak, maybe you wanna bump up your squats or something lol. Can't hurt

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Hey I know it's not necessarily related to arm strength, but getting finger tackled by linemen and not being able to qb sneak, maybe you wanna bump up your squats or something lol. Can't hurt

Yea I'm not saying he shouldn't do resistance training.  Just saying bench press isn't gonna translate well to QB and could potentially risk his rotator cuffs in a way that doesn't make sense from a risk/reward standpoint.

[strato]

The lower body though, would be helpful to him.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, strato said:

The lower body though, would be helpful to him.

 

[strato]

Bryce might make a couple hundred you reckon? 

 

I should have asked for the Bryce squat video. 

Edited September 12 by strato

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

T-Mac's tape >>>>>>> Hunter's WR tape, it's really not even close if you're only looking at Hutner's offensive side of the ball

Hunter has 92 rec for 1,153 yards, and 12 TDs in his entire career... T-Mac had 90 for 1,402, and 10 just last season alone... with tape that's littered with highlight reel catch after highlight reel catch.

Hunter is a better CB prospect than a WR (and even then, when they played last season, Hunter covered T-Mac and he got torched for 9 rec, 107 yards, and a TD by T-Mac

And saying "tall and fast WRs are in every draft" is just stupid... there are more short/fast WRs in a draft than tall/fast.  Plus, his hands, catch radius, and ability to "moss" DB's are his best attributes, not his speed.  Which again isn't a knock on his speed, but he's not a Quentin Johnston last draft where he's just a big speedster with nothing else and is already looking like a bust.

I mentioned nothing about Hunter. Just saying my eyes are on your guy. I actually like the thought of a potential Mike Evans clone.

 

Hunter will be the 1st non QB off the board. That's just how I feel.

 

I like the thought of us trading back for extra picks or potential player.

 

My eyes will be on Tmac for the rest of the season. Just saying I'm watching like you told me to.

Edited September 13 by CamWhoaaCam

[PootieNunu]

7 hours ago, MRenshaw said:

Damn! Jamarcus actually looks slightly better than Bryce in this comparison. That's wild because Jamarcus hardly bothered with memorizing the playbook or watching tape. When it's all said and done, Bryce might end up being the biggest draft bust of all-time considering what we had given up to get him.

Its like you guys were not paying attention when he had one of the worst seasons ever by a QB in 2023.....Did you think that meant just worse than the good QBs? He is total garbage and we can stop blaming the coaches and players around him. Its not them, its him. 

[MRenshaw]

10 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Its like you guys were not paying attention when he had one of the worst seasons ever by a QB in 2023.....Did you think that meant just worse than the good QBs? He is total garbage and we can stop blaming the coaches and players around him. Its not them, its him. 

I mean I knew Bryce was tracking Wilson closely last season, but it had never occurred to me to compare him to Jamarcus. Now I know, and yikes.

[TD alt]

On 9/11/2024 at 7:39 PM, strato said:

I enjoyed that, watched most of it. Thanks.

Gruden knows a little bit, and I like that he will just say what he thinks rather than temper it to not hurt someone's feelings. I am sure he did temper here and there but it was more honest, less tentative with his words then what I have been exposed to. Seemed confident in what he was saying. 

 

To me, he said a lot of good stuff, but it's still obvious that he doesn't really know what's going on with the team. "Everybody's gotta play better," is about as general as it gets. He's acting like it's last season where Bryce had nothing to work with. I believe that a decent QB could make these skill guys work. 

[strato]

Agreed on a real QB, still need a couple of weeks to get straight. Everything is new on offense. 

I was always pointing to week three this year but got so blindsided last week it upset my schedule. I am trying to chill and reset to that. But Sunday has become very big now. 

[Panthercougar68]

1 minute ago, strato said:

Agreed on a real QB, still need a couple of weeks to get straight. Everything is new on offense. 

I was always pointing to week three this year but got so blindsided last week it upset my schedule. I am trying to chill and reset to that. But Sunday has become very big now. 

At LV will be very telling.