Matt Waldman on Panthers offense

[TheSpecialJuan]

https://x.com/mattwaldman/status/1833307848354189664?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

 

[Ornias]

Which means the coaches don't trust him. I guess they do see the problem in the room. 

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

the same QB that kill kill to a WR screen on 4th and long deep in the 4th quarter

[TheSpecialJuan]

https://x.com/mattwaldman/status/1833306446949175612?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

[uncfan888]

He shouldn't change plays until he can execute what's called without bailing out of clean pockets or sailing the ball

[Jackie Lee]

23 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

He shouldn't change plays until he can execute what's called without bailing out of clean pockets or sailing the ball

For some reason Canales wassn't calling things much different than Reich...lol. I definitely didn't see much motion or anything after the very first play that resulted in an int. I guess they tried more under center play action-ish things even though we weren't running the ball? I dunno

 

[Jackie Lee]

This one is good, why not step up into your $100M interior pocket? 

 

[nosuchthingasapanther]

if he can't change plays, why tf is he allowing the play clock to run to 1 second before calling for the ball?

[Waldo]

5 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

This one is good, why not step up into your $100M interior pocket? 

 

He runs 5 yards back out of his pocket which makes blocking for the OTs impossible. He knows it and there is no better option for him so he keeps doing it.

[Waldo]

Weird seeing no dump off options but they are keeping so many to help block for that Carr'esk type drop back he needs. I don't really know what DC could do but pick his poison. I can't see one good option of what to do with Young that has a chance at working. It's built to fail.

Edited September 10 by Waldo

[frankw]

Yeah I'm not falling into these traps.

Everyone loved Canales after that preseason drive against the Bills. Now we're talking about him like he's Reich.

Bryce Young just is not an NFL QB.

[MechaZain]

58 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Weird seeing no dump off options but they are keeping so many to help block for that Carr'esk type drop back he needs. I don't really know what DC could do but pick his poison. I can't see one good option of what to do with Young that has a chance at working. It's built to fail.

They should be playing as if we still have McCaffery. Bryce has to be rolling out and throwing on the run for the majority of his snaps. He is a detriment in the pocket because he can't see over the line and lacks the arm strength to be a deep threat.  He should be scurrying around in the backfield until a WR finds seperation in the short field, otherwise he's gotta pick up the yards himself or dump it off. Dink and dunk effectively enough and defenses will give opportunities to chuck it deep and pray. Maybe he's not accurate enough to pull it off but it's the only path to success for him, and what drives me mad is we knew that was his game when we drafted him and still aren't doing it for whatever reason

I missed the game (great fortune that ended up being) but it sounds like they still aren't really doing that. What's crazier is that apparently the OL held up well so they're not the issue. Why NOT do that if this is the alternative? Is Young just a deer in headlights or is Canales another snake oil salesman?

Edited September 10 by MechaZain

[Waldo]

Just now, MechaZain said:

They should be playing as if we still have McCaffery. Bryce has to be rolling out and throwing on the run for the majority of his snaps. He is a detriment in the pocket because he can't see over the line and lacks the arm strength to be a deep threat.  He should be scurrying around in the backfield until a WR finds seperation in the short field, otherwise he's gotta pick up the yards himself or dump it off. Dink and dunk effectively enough and defenses will give opportunities to chuck it deep and pray. Maybe he's not accurate enough to pull it off but it's the only path to success for him, and what drives me mad is we knew that was his game when we drafted him and still aren't doing it for whatever reason

I missed the game (great fortune that ended up being) but it sounds like they still aren't really doing that. What's crazier is that apparently the OL held up wll so they're not the issue. Is Bryce just a deer in headlights or is Canales another snake oil salesman?

He isn't fast enough for that. His runs worked because they were not at all concerned about his ability and they were not blitzing. It also forces the play to one side which the D would just adjust for, takes any help from the oline away and allows an easy blitz (he obviously doesn'thandle CB blitzs well). There isn't a good option and anything you come up with can be put into a corner quickly.

[frankw]

11 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

They should be playing as if we still have McCaffery. Bryce has to be rolling out and throwing on the run for the majority of his snaps. He is a detriment in the pocket because he can't see over the line and lacks the arm strength to be a deep threat.  He should be scurrying around in the backfield until a WR finds seperation in the short field, otherwise he's gotta pick up the yards himself or dump it off. Dink and dunk effectively enough and defenses will give opportunities to chuck it deep and pray. Maybe he's not accurate enough to pull it off but it's the only path to success for him, and what drives me mad is we knew that was his game when we drafted him and still aren't doing it for whatever reason

I missed the game (great fortune that ended up being) but it sounds like they still aren't really doing that. What's crazier is that apparently the OL held up well so they're not the issue. Why NOT do that if this is the alternative? Is Young just a deer in headlights or is Canales another snake oil salesman?

They aren't doing it because every NFL team has 17 games of tape on Young anyways. Nobody is fooled by what's coming he can scurry around in the backfield all he wants. No one is scared of his arm or his processing ability.