Going #1 is proof that nothing is a sure thing

[CPantherKing]

57 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Can’t remember who posted it but all first round qbs are more than likely busts.

If 1st round QBs were that valuable to a roster, you'd see them dominating the playoffs. A majority of teams have 1st round QBs, and the QBs who move their teams through the playoffs to conference championship games are an even split.

Since 1990. QBs who have proven they can win a SB are bold. Dynasty QBs are in italics. Panthers have had 4 of these QBs on their roster. Non-1st rounders have a higher success rate when considering starting opportunities heavily favor 1st round QBs.

You'll also notice the majority of 1st round QBs taking the crown went to established playoff contenders. A majority of non-1st round QBs taking the crown went to bottom of the NFL rebuilds.

Before anyone screams Day 3 QBs or undrafted QBs are hard to find, 12 of 64 were avaliable day 3 & 5 were not selected in the first 7 rounds.

These are the only championship level QBs for 25 years.

Goff, Jackson, Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, Rodgers, Allen, Tannehill, Bortles, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Newton, P.Manning, Palmer, Luck, Flacco, E.Manning, Smith, Cutler, Sanchez, McNabb, Rivers, Grossman, Vick, McNair, Dilfer, Collins, Culpepper, Elway, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Harbaugh, Aikman, Kelly, Marino

Purdy, Hurts, Brady, Garoppolo, Brees, Foles, Keenum, Wilson, Kaepernick, Favre, Warner, Hasselbeck, Delhomme, Plummer, Gannon, Johnson, Stewart, King, Brunell, Chandler, Cunningham, Young, O'Donnell, Humphries, Montana, Rypien, Kramer, Hostetler, Schroeder

Do NOT draft a 1st round QB unless you are an established playoff contender.

[Waldo]

His school tape proved he wasn't a sure thing. So overhyped and so poorly scouted. The combine stuff just proved it.

[Jrock88]

2 hours ago, bigdog_10_2002 said:

Who are these “established” qbs?  A third of the league is in horrible qb shape just like us or are starting a rookie. 

No poo Sherlock that's the point

[CPcavedweller]

3 hours ago, Jmac said:

All the Bryce BS hype proves that it's all a crapshoot. Some believed and some didn't. They made the wrong pick at #1. He would have been the wrong pick regardless of where he was chosen.

There will not be a top QB "prospect" in the 2025 draft. The experts don't know sh%t when it comes down to it. Always pick the guy with the athletic ability that meets the expectations of what an NFL QB should have.

Doesn't matter in this next draft if it's a #1  pick or a later pick. Pick the guy that has the physical tools to succeed in the league. Coach him up and let him loose. Bryce doesn't have the tools to succeed.

We need to win some games and be competitive or risk losing the whole fanbase. Need to put the best QB on the field now.....and Bryce isn't it.

 

 

 

We all know that it isn’t a sure thing. The problem is that we took a 5’10 quarterback who couldn’t do QB workouts at the combine because he’d spent the previous two months eating so he would weigh in over 200 lbs. Then he wouldn’t weigh in at his Pro Day and only did drills. Then Tepper was star struck by Saban and took the 185 lb quarterback that ordered a SCALLOP SALAD instead of like three entres to keep his weight up. 
 

I saw this coming from 10 miles away. Many other people did as well and most of them have left the board because of how they were treated here for even the suggestion that Bryce wasn’t the best option. 
 

If he had been anywhere else but Alabama, he’s a 4th round pick. 

[Shocker]

3 hours ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

in order for #1 pick to succeed, you need to A) pick the right player and B) have the correct environment and system in place

which Tepper and Co. didn't do and/or have

And picking another QB and throwing him out there won’t either.  Bryce is mentally shot atp.  Gotta build the team for the next guy

Edited September 9 by Shocker

[Jmac]

They have become a very sad and broken franchise.

[strato]

46 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

If 1st round QBs were that valuable to a roster, you'd see them dominating the playoffs. A majority of teams have 1st round QBs, and the QBs who move their teams through the playoffs to conference championship games are an even split.

Since 1990. QBs who have proven they can win a SB are bold. Dynasty QBs are in italics. Panthers have had 4 of these QBs on their roster. Non-1st rounders have a higher success rate when considering starting opportunities heavily favor 1st round QBs.

You'll also notice the majority of 1st round QBs taking the crown went to established playoff contenders. A majority of non-1st round QBs taking the crown went to bottom of the NFL rebuilds.

Before anyone screams Day 3 QBs or undrafted QBs are hard to find, 12 of 64 were avaliable day 3 & 5 were not selected in the first 7 rounds.

These are the only championship level QBs for 25 years.

Goff, Jackson, Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, Rodgers, Allen, Tannehill, Bortles, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Newton, P.Manning, Palmer, Luck, Flacco, E.Manning, Smith, Cutler, Sanchez, McNabb, Rivers, Grossman, Vick, McNair, Dilfer, Collins, Culpepper, Elway, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Harbaugh, Aikman, Kelly, Marino

Purdy, Hurts, Brady, Garoppolo, Brees, Foles, Keenum, Wilson, Kaepernick, Favre, Warner, Hasselbeck, Delhomme, Plummer, Gannon, Johnson, Stewart, King, Brunell, Chandler, Cunningham, Young, O'Donnell, Humphries, Montana, Rypien, Kramer, Hostetler, Schroeder

Do NOT draft a 1st round QB unless you are an established playoff contender.

Late round stuff, look at the team we just played. Look in their QB room. 
I would take either of those backups over Bryce Young. Today. Even. 
But when I was only suspicious with no proof of Bruce being overwhelmed I still would have taken either where they were taken over Bryce where he was taken. All day. And sign a Carr for a year or two. I think they big time whipped our ass at swapping out the QB chairs.