2024 College Football Thread

[ForJimmy]

Just now, CRA said:

I think Cam and Sanders are going to have to sit and reprogram themselves.  Both have just gotten way too use of holding the ball and thinking they are good athletes behind the LOS.  That might work in the BIG12 and ACC but it’s the recipe to get murdered in the NFL.  

Both got the talent.  But talent ain’t enough.  see Caleb Williams. 

Yeah neither of them are playing NFL ball IMO (getting it out quick and stepping up in the pocket). They both have a lot of talent and with the right staff around them could be great. I just wouldn’t feel comfortable drafting either in the top 10. It’s a weak draft from top 10 talent in general…

[chbright]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I’m kind of glad Bryce played better later in this year. As much as I like Cam Ward, I wouldn’t want to pick a QB in the top 10 this year. Next year’s class should be much better. 

I'd be down for ward regardless. Yeah I agree there is better top end talent next year, but think the floor for ward is a starter. Idk if he's a top 5 guy for a decade, but he's gonna be a solid starter. Nothing in his college career says he can't be a mid level guy. From incarnate word, to Washington State to Miami, he just produced big time. Some huddlers were tapped in when he was still incarnate word, waiting for him to declare. Props to them, he looks the part every stop.

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I totally agree and we might end up seeing players in the playoff going this route one day.  Maybe not but who knows.  If it was my kid and he was a possible top 20 pick no way in hell I want him to play.  Especially a non playoff bowl.  This is the rest of his life vs a meaningless game.

I think this era is going to produce business decision makers the likes we haven’t seen….and that means that will carry forward to the NFL.  I like my players like Cam Newton….trying to suit up after breaking his back the same week.   I didn’t want him to play then….but I liked they had to fight him not to play.   Dudes like Cam can carry and motivate a team beyond what they do on the field.  No NFL guys running through a brick wall for a lot of these new era guys IMO 

[LinvilleGorge]

Miami is in for a rough season next year if they don't find a QB. I mean, they could see an FSU style fall off. Maybe not THAT bad but Cam Ward carried the fug out of that team.

[ForJimmy]

5 minutes ago, chbright said:

I'd be down for ward regardless. Yeah I agree there is better top end talent next year, but think the floor for ward is a starter. Idk if he's a top 5 guy for a decade, but he's gonna be a solid starter. Nothing in his college career says he can't be a mid level guy. From incarnate word, to Washington State to Miami, he just produced big time. Some huddlers were tapped in when he was still incarnate word, waiting for him to declare. Props to them, he looks the part every stop.

I like Ward and his whole journey is pretty impressive. With that said very few QB prospects have a FLOOR as a mid tier starter. He has played against ACC and PAC 12 defenses and sure he lit them up, but it’s a lot different in the NFL. Plus there is a good chance he goes to a team with a bad OL and that wants him to play ASAP. Both are recipes for hurting a young QB’s development. 

[OldhamA]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Miami is in for a rough season next year if they don't find a QB. I mean, they could see an FSU style fall off. Maybe not THAT bad but Cam Ward carried the fug out of that team.

We'll fire Guidry shortly (or let him find another job, as is Cristobal's way) and hire a new DC. There's a lot of talent on D, way more than those results would lead you to believe.

We need a QB in the Portal. We have a talented FR coming in, but Williams has just proven he isn't the guy next year. That's basically what we were looking at in the second half. Cristobal clearly didn't give two fugs about winning the game.

Edited 16 hours ago by OldhamA

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Miami is in for a rough season next year if they don't find a QB. I mean, they could see an FSU style fall off. Maybe not THAT bad but Cam Ward carried the fug out of that team.

Season felt like it was just Ward and Restrepo playing catch as Miami gave up 2 billion points no matter the opponent 

[OldhamA]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think this era is going to produce business decision makers the likes we haven’t seen….and that means that will carry forward to the NFL.  I like my players like Cam Newton….trying to suit up after breaking his back the same week.   I didn’t want him to play then….but I liked they had to fight him not to play.   Dudes like Cam can carry and motivate a team beyond what they do on the field.  No NFL guys running through a brick wall for a lot of these new era guys IMO 

Ward is 'that dude' in that regard. 

He didn't have to play today. Restrepo (a guy with far less to lose) sat out. 

First day on campus he contacted all of his WRs and said "if you don't watch tape I'm not throwing you the ball". First play of practice he audibled a run play in to 4 verts and scored a 60 yard TD. 

He's a leader and preternaturally calm. I question whether he has an accurate enough deep ball to be a great NFL QB, but he absolutely has the mental make up to be one. 

[Shocker]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Miami is in for a rough season next year if they don't find a QB. I mean, they could see an FSU style fall off. Maybe not THAT bad but Cam Ward carried the fug out of that team.

Yeah, they will fade back to obscurity.  Sounds familiar to me and if Mack could have fielded a decent defense things could have been very different.  At least Belichick came from a defensive background.  Can’t lie I am very interested to see how this team looks next season.   UNC's 2025 football schedule:

• Aug. 30: vs. TCU

• Sept. 6: at Charlotte

• Sept. 13: vs. Richmond

• Sept. 20: at UCF

• Date TBA: vs. Clemson

• Date TBA: vs. Duke

• Date TBA: vs. Stanford

• Date TBA: vs. Virginia

• Date TBA: at California

• Date TBA: at N.C. State

• Date TBA: at Syracuse

• Date TBA: at Wake Forest

Edited 16 hours ago by Shocker

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Yeah, they will fade back to obscurity.  Sounds familiar to me and if Mack could have fielded a decent defense things could have been very different.  At least Belichick came from a defensive background.  Can’t lie I am very interested to see how this team looks next season.   UNC's 2025 football schedule:

• Aug. 30: vs. TCU

• Sept. 6: at Charlotte

• Sept. 13: vs. Richmond

• Sept. 20: at UCF

• Date TBA: vs. Clemson

• Date TBA: vs. Duke

• Date TBA: vs. Stanford

• Date TBA: vs. Virginia

• Date TBA: at California

• Date TBA: at N.C. State

• Date TBA: at Syracuse

• Date TBA: at Wake Forest

Tom Brady ain't walkin' through that door.

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Ward is 'that dude' in that regard. 

He didn't have to play today. Restrepo (a guy with far less to lose) sat out. 

First day on campus he contacted all of his WRs and said "if you don't watch tape I'm not throwing you the ball". First play of practice he audibled a run play in to 4 verts and scored a 60 yard TD. 

He's a leader and preternaturally calm. I question whether he has an accurate enough deep ball to be a great NFL QB, but he absolutely has the mental make up to be one. 

He played just to get his today.  Then sat.   That ain’t being that dude IMO.   Team had 20 pass yards in the second half.   That’s hanging the rest that helped him get his out to dry.  Just not my preference.  Just don’t play then.  

I hate on Colorado a lot.  If those dudes actually finish the season as it sounds they will….I’ll give them props

[OldhamA]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

He played just to get his today.  Then sat.   That ain’t being that dude IMO.   Team had 20 pass yards in the second half.   That’s hanging the rest that helped him get his out to dry.  Just not by preference.  Just don’t play then. 

No, he played because he wanted to finish the season with his guys.

Cristobal and Dawson pulled him at half time to get a look at Williams. 

[Jon Snow]

30 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I’m kind of glad Bryce played better later in this year. As much as I like Cam Ward, I wouldn’t want to pick a QB in the top 10 this year. Next year’s class should be much better. 

Ward had all day in the pocket in this game. 

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

No, he played because he wanted to finish the season with his guys.

Cristobal and Dawson pulled him at half time to get a look at Williams. 

He wanted that record.  That’s why he played.  Everyone knows that.   He got it.   Then he sat.   That’s called an agreement. 

if they wanted a good look at Williams…you just play him the full game and give him the reps.  Not insert a cold QB into an absurd shootout late. 

I get it.  Like I said, I prefer the old approach.  Which basically applied in HS and will again in the NFL.   I think a bunch of these college bounce around kids are red flags waiting to happen.   Again, not wanting that convo to be just about Cam.  It’s bigger than Cam.  I still think it’s whack sitting him midway in a shootout.