Tanking the season

[CRA]

You say they are on the path to be great. But the guys that have laid the groundwork for them to be great are in a lame duck situation:confused:

Fox has a boss....and his boss has done a lot of talking to him the past couple seasons. There is nothing about Fox that suggests the youth movement and change was all his idea. Fox is carry out the plans for the organization...

[carolinanimal]

The patriots and steelers do the same thing. However they are considered smart when they do it. It's also not called rebuilding, they call it reloading or moving toward the future.

when did the patriots are steelers jettison most of there vets and have no first round pick and were inactive mostly in fa except for special teams starters?

[thejimmy]

4. wait for white noise poo posters to drown out anyone who would disagree with you

5. drink deeply from a 40 oz can of Ballz and stroke your neck beard

I am on the floor, laughing so hard I'm crying.

Absolutely hilarious!

[panther4life]

Dude go back and read my thread about fox/hurneys creation. He and Hurney have built our current roster to the best of their ability. They will continue to do so until training camp starts. If they fail, they should and probably will be fired. If they do good then they will recieve extensions.

But once again to say decision on whether or not to fire fox has been made already is fuging stupid. Whats even dumber than that is them handicapping him by forcing him to cut vets that he didnt want to cut, so that he could be set up for failure. Then you think he and Hurney don't have the power to trade next years draft choices because it may make the team better this year vs. waiting till next year to make them better under a different staff?? I think your reaching real hard here

[MaineManPanther]

With the running backs we have, 130 yds a game is a joke. The games Hoover was out, we went 1-4, including losses to Buffalo and Miami. And Fiammetta was so horrible, he didn't start some of those games.

If my math was right we averaged 144 yards a game in hoover's absence. I compared his missed games to our stats in those games. NFL.com if you want to check.

Hoover only started three games.

What game in that 1-4 streak would we have won had Hoover been in?

[CRA]

Dude go back and read my thread about fox/hurneys creation. He and Hurney have built our current roster to the best of their ability. They will continue to do so until training camp starts. If they fail, they should and probably will be fired. If they do good then they will recieve extensions.

But once again to say decision on whether or not to fire fox has been made already is f**king stupid. Whats even dumber than that is them handicapping him by forcing him to cut vets that he didnt want to cut, so that he could be set up for failure. Then you think he and Hurney don't have the power to trade next years draft choices because it may make the team better this year vs. waiting till next year to make them better under a different staff?? I think your reaching real hard here

again, why is Fox in a lame duck season then?

He and Hurney did build the roster....however, there is little we know about Fox that would suggest gutting this team was all his idea. The fact he is in a lame duck season also supports that.

yes, Hurney/Fox won't be trading future picks to make the 2010 team better. It wouldn't make sense to let them do it based on the direction of the team.

[panther4life]

again, why is Fox in a lame duck season then?

He and Hurney did build the roster....however, there is little we know about Fox that would suggest gutting this team was all his idea. The fact he is in a lame duck season also supports that.

yes, Hurney/Fox won't be trading future picks to make the 2010 team better. It wouldn't make sense to let them do it based on the direction of the team.

Letting injury prone and aging vets walk isnt exactly "guttting" a roster, especially when you have been developing younger players to replace them on the roster. Nor would they have brought Brayton back.

The only reason I can see J.R waiting to fire fox would be saving money.

If the team was going to gut the roster and rebuild then they would have traded steve smith away while hes still in his prime or he would at least be demanding a trade as i'm sure he wants to win a ring before his window of oppurtunity closes on him.

and btw I have already addressed the reason for not giving him an extension already anyway

[Wither]

the reason why people are so agianst rebuilding is because to most it carries a negative view. but it doesnt always.

Everyone is so against rebuilding because this team isn't rebuilding.

what other team has done what we have done? what teams has done this in the past? :confused:

Exactly what has this team done other than cut players who won't make much of a difference? Diggs? His services can be found in other players. Hoover? He will be missed, but he will be easily replaced. Peppers? He didn't want to be here.

[cookinbrak]

If my math was right we averaged 144 yards a game in hoover's absence. I compared his missed games to our stats in those games. NFL.com if you want to check.

Hoover only started three games.

What game in that 1-4 streak would we have won had Hoover been in?

If we had been able to run the ball more effectively, I'd say Buffalo and Miami.

[pantherclaw]

"These arn't the moves I feel they should be making, so they must be tanking the season!"

That tells me you don't have much understanding.

[carolinanimal]

Everyone is so against rebuilding because this team isn't rebuilding.

Exactly what has this team done other than cut players who won't make much of a difference? Diggs? His services can be found in other players. Hoover? He will be missed, but he will be easily replaced. Peppers? He didn't want to be here.

didnt beason say in his blog or article that rebuilding isnt a bad thing if he didnt chris harris sure was mad. dont we consider him a leader now?

that is the point! what HAS the team done to improve? we havent added anything we have any kind of reference for. i am not saying we will suck. but how can you count upgrades off of rookies, backups and guys coming off ir?

[CRA]

didnt beason say in his blog or article that rebuilding isnt a bad thing if he didnt chris harris sure was mad. dont we consider him a leader now?

that is the point! what HAS the team done to improve? we havent added anything we have any kind of reference for. i am not saying we will suck. but how can you count upgrades off of rookies, backups and guys coming off ir?

and you are refering to the guys that couldn't land gigs for the Rams and Chiefs....but with a few mintues in a Panther uniform are better than what we had and people are already penciling them in as improving the DL? Those IR guys?

[JungleCat]

It's too early to tell. We'll have to wait and see who they end up bringing in.

[carolinanimal]

and you are refering to the guys that couldn't land gigs for the Rams and Chiefs....but with a few mintues in a Panther uniform are better than what we had and people are already penciling them in as improving the DL? Those IR guys?

yes!