Apache gun cam footage from Bhagdad

[TheSaint]

[TheSaint]

thats the full 39 minute version...there is an additional engagement at the very end of the video as well.

[Ja Rhule]

At war, anything goes.

[neverlosethefeeling]

Saw that video last night. I don't agree with it, or with "At war, anything goes."

[Darth Biscuit]

Yeah, you obviously don't know the whole situation that was going on there... but it looked to me like even though those guys had weapons, they were just standing around... didn't really seem like a situation to deal with from an Apache. If there's a suspected problem, why not send in some ground troops to check it out with Apache backup?

[Purity-Control]

It's stupid to think your going to fight a WAR, and not have any civilian loss.

[Darth Biscuit]

The ground troops in the area had been taking fire from insurgents in the direction of that group of men. An RPG fired on them at least once and they apparently called in close air support.

At least thats what I got from the subtitled radio traffic. You know how the story ends...

Yeah, like I said... I'm sure there's more to the situation than the video shows... like what happened prior to the video time frame etc. I'm sure that they were just trying to protect themselves, and sometimes in a war zone, civilians get killed, soldiers and airmen get quick triggers, etc.

All I'm saying is that at that moment, it didn't look to me like those guys were an imminent threat and the guys in the van were certainly not a "threat"... they may not have wanted them to take the bodies and weapons from the scene, but it seemed excessive.

[jasonluckydog]

Call of Duty style......badass

[jasonluckydog]

7 more kills would have got him a nuke

[Goosfraba21]

I can understand shooting the men on the ground with weapons but shooting the people coming to help the wounded and pick up the dead bodies? Doesn't seem right to me.

[Acewalker]

Those guys should have been using Cold-blooded

[TheSaint]

Cant send ground guys in to check out van. One of them my have Akimbo 1857

[Snake]

Seems like clean kills to me. It was bad that the girl was hurt but you should not put kids in a battle field. It was clear that they were gonna fire the RPG at them and it was also clear that Van was helping the insurgents.

[Davidson Deac II]

Urban battlefields are the worst kind, for everyone involved. Excepting of course the insurgents, who pick urban battlefields because they make it easy to hide, and force us to engage in a manner that causes more risk to innocents.