Giants thought they would have to give up more in trade for Brian Burns

[csx]

The NY media will not be so nice if he doesn't step it up. Though I don't get the impression he is too concerned beyond the contract.

[Gapanthersfan]

Bye, Felicia. Burns was only ever out for Burns. The impact player that never was. 
 

not taking 2 firsts was franchise changing. 

[jasonluckydog]

We could have had Anthony Richardson or Stroud.

 

But we don't. Ha ha!! Lol. Flmaof@@ FML!!! SMD!!! IhmFL!! FuPanters!! 

[Gapanthersfan]

And it’s not even like the moves were all that complicated. Take the franchise changing king’s ransom for Burns, roll another year with Sam, Foreman and Chuba. Put Wilks on a 1 year prove it deal. Keep DJ. Keep CMC (maybe), or at the very least hold out for a better deal. Winning 8 games is not a crime. Picking 12th and having 2 more first rounders and an extra second? Bro, you could deal with anyone to get your guy, if he’s there. Find someone to replace Wilks, but he showed that he could at least win a game in the nfl. 

 Build some sort of winning culture, attitude and identity. Put your fans in the stadium. Over the ensuing 2 to 3 seasons, draft smart offensive (especially line) pieces to fit a style that wins consistently in the modern NFL, and take the next step. Attract good coaches. Don’t make dumb desperation moves, or you end up being the worst organization in pro sports. 

Fitt and T thought they could just flip a switch and out move the other 31 teams. 

[TheBigKat]

Burns was the weakest ‘star player’ we’ve had on this team

 

 fades in big games

 horrible against the run

 has a one move technique

[Bama Panther]

10 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

And it’s not even like the moves were all that complicated. Take the franchise changing king’s ransom for Burns, roll another year with Sam, Foreman and Chuba. Put Wilks on a 1 year prove it deal. Keep DJ. Keep CMC (maybe), or at the very least hold out for a better deal. Winning 8 games is not a crime. Picking 12th and having 2 more first rounders and an extra second? Bro, you could deal with anyone to get your guy, if he’s there. Find someone to replace Wilks, but he showed that he could at least win a game in the nfl. 

 Build some sort of winning culture, attitude and identity. Put your fans in the stadium. Over the ensuing 2 to 3 seasons, draft smart offensive (especially line) pieces to fit a style that wins consistently in the modern NFL, and take the next step. Attract good coaches. Don’t make dumb desperation moves, or you end up being the worst organization in pro sports. 

Fitt and T thought they could just flip a switch and out move the other 31 teams. 

This has been the biggest issue with the Panthers’ attempt at a turnaround. They haven’t taken a patient approach, such as the one you laid out above. If they had done this, even going back to Rhule’s all defense first draft, things may have been way different now. 

[Navy_football]

35 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

Burns was the weakest ‘star player’ we’ve had on this team

 

 fades in big games

 horrible against the run

 has a one move technique

I don't get why a lot can't see this. I think the defense is better without him and his one splash play every 2-3 games. Consistent pressure on the QB is vastly more impactful than the occassional super sack. Being able to set the edge is crucial to stopping the run. Off tackle runs are your back breaker, big runs. 

[Call Me James]

I fully expect burns to have a career year. It’s the current theme.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I don't get why a lot can't see this. I think the defense is better without him and his one splash play every 2-3 games. Consistent pressure on the QB is vastly more impactful than the occassional super sack. Being able to set the edge is crucial to stopping the run. Off tackle runs are your back breaker, big runs. 

Brian Burns was basically the equivalent of the DE version of Ted Ginn Jr IMO.    

[kungfoodude]

15 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Brian Burns is a majorly overrated player

I was not upset to see him sign a 30 mil contract elsewhere. I suspect he will never make the numbers to make that logical.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Call Me James said:

I fully expect burns to have a career year. It’s the current theme.

Yeah, but will it be a $30 million career year? 

[Navy_football]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I was not upset to see him sign a 30 mil contract elsewhere. I suspect he will never make the numbers to make that logical.

He has better edge help on the other side now, so he'll probably average 12 sacks or so and people will get all excited. Not realizing they were all from 7 or 8 games and he was targetted against the run the whole time. Those sacks will be fluff numbers in NY and everyone will say how bad of a trade it was.

[NCBlu]

28m I thought everyone said he wanted to be top paid DE like 35m or better .

 

[Panthero]

I hope this thing dies. Beyond dead horse territory. We're in dust horse zone. Let go your hate, save you it can!