Giants thought they would have to give up more in trade for Brian Burns

[WhoKnows]

2 hours ago, Panthero said:

I hope this thing dies. Beyond dead horse territory. We're in dust horse zone. Let go your hate, save you it can! 

There’s no hate. It’s reminiscing over our glory days of legitimately whiffing on every move to have a playoff contender.

We can’t get out of beating a dead horse until we have a team to feel good about. It’s as simple as that. The folks who always want to look through rose colored glasses can, no worries. The people who reminisce just want to see something, anything first. We know the past can’t change, but it does still suck to see other teams GMs discuss taking advantage of us. From Elway saying why they passed on Paradis to the Jets bamboozaling us out of 3 picks for Darnold when SF was already out of the deal. I’m sure we’ll hear the Rams GM pointing to the non-Burns trade as the reason why they were able to reload and get back to the playoffs.

[Call Me James]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, but will it be a $30 million career year? 

Don’t know. Don’t care to be honest. 

The cap isn’t the reason why this team has been bad.

[WhoKnows]

18 minutes ago, Call Me James said:

Don’t know. Don’t care to be honest. 

The cap isn’t the reason why this team has been bad.

Wait, this is a time where it actually hurt us. The Giants thought they’d have to give us 2 2nds (many people predicted that). We caved for a 2nd and some late round crap because we needed Burns gone to do the two guard contracts. Our FAs have been fairly trash because we didn’t have tons of cap to make splashes. Amazingly, we had to get rid of Burns quickly due to cap space (been mentioned in the trade thread a few times) even as a 2-15 team.

[cardiackat88.]

Still cannot believe these idiots DID NOT ship his ass to the Rams.

UNBELIEVABLE!! 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Call Me James said:

Don’t know. Don’t care to be honest. 

The cap isn’t the reason why this team has been bad.

Cap has nothing to do with it. You can't pay players mega premium money if they aren't mega premium players. 

That's how you stay bad for a long time.

[Johnstonny]

On 6/25/2024 at 3:29 PM, Prowler2k18 said:

This one is on Scott Fitterer. No way should we have passed up what the Rams offered for Burns. It’s water under the bridge now. Hope the new regime learns from their mistakes. 

Wonder where that SOB is....I bet not in football anywhere..

[WUnderhill]

8 hours ago, CRA said:

well, we can still be lead by bad negotiators and managers of our assets.   

I think the Giants sort of confirmed that.  They got a deal they probably didn't expect.  Which is largely the thought on CMC and DJ as well.  Mr. In on Every Deal wasn't really that good at going about it. 

This isn’t pawn stars. The Panthers leverage was limited. The Giants were negotiating more against other teams than they were negotiating with the Panthers. Burns himself was also part of the equation because he had to be willing to sign with the new team, which would limit the suitors further. The deal was also done by Morgan, not Fitterer. The Panthers took the best offer they got and they weren’t really in a position to walk away from the table and try to force a better offer. That’s how you end up stuck with getting nothing but a compensatory pick for Burns when he walks as a free agent. It is what it is.

[WUnderhill]

8 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

how you figure that, the Giants would go to 2 seconds but morgan bit on just one.  

I didn’t read it as the Giants would have done 2 seconds, just they were spitballing about possibilities and what the price might be. And even if they initially thought they would be willing to, once they realized no other team was coming close to that then why would they?

[Prowler2k18]

26 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

Wonder where that SOB is....I bet not in football anywhere..

You may be right. Probably decided to take a year off to spend time with family and reevaluate his career. I’m sure he’ll land on his feet somewhere.

[strato]

Fitterer is eating breakfast with Reich, way off the radar at the Tepper trough. 

I bet he lands as an AD at some dinky college when the Tepper pay runs out. Pretty sure he had ’24 and ’25 left on his contract. 

[Gapanthersfan]

I don’t think Burns was the commodity he thought he was. Every GM in the league saw his unwillingness to play the run and that he quit on his team. He’s not going to like NY income taxes. 

[Candler Cat]

2 hours ago, cardiackat88. said:

Still cannot believe these idiots DID NOT ship his ass to the Rams.

UNBELIEVABLE!! 

Nucking futts

[thennek]

It was not only passing on two 1st rounders from the Rams that was a horrible decision….but also trading DJ Moore to the Bears instead of Burns. 

[Call Me James]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Cap has nothing to do with it. You can't pay players mega premium money if they aren't mega premium players. 

That's how you stay bad for a long time.

I’m sorry. Is this the same team over paying every journeyman qb.

the same team that kept cmc on the books.

the same team who continues to extend Thomas.

It sounds good, but I’ve realized yall miss the point.

we aren’t overpaying too many players: because every single one of the players we’ve complained about have gone elsewhere and find success.

 

we just suck at team building because yall would rather feel better in your f150