Blueprint: Episode two

[SOJA]

After watching these i have a conspiracy. I think the Panthers are very seriously considering moving on from Bryce after this season if things go poorly. Particularly in episode two Bryce is not shown a lot nor is mentioned much. It's all about "building the team and the culture". Nothing we have done this offseason would preclude us from dropping another rookie or a veteran in next year. 

If next year is a trainwreck and we have the number one overall pick again, why would Morgan/Canales stake their jobs on a guy they ultimately both didn't hand select?

[Jackie Lee]

3 minutes ago, SOJA said:

After watching these i have a conspiracy. I think the Panthers are very seriously considering moving on from Bryce after this season if things go poorly. Particularly in episode two Bryce is not shown a lot nor is mentioned much. It's all about "building the team and the culture". Nothing we have done this offseason would preclude us from dropping another rookie or a veteran in next year. 

If next year is a trainwreck and we have the number one overall pick again, why would Morgan/Canales stake their jobs on a guy they ultimately both didn't hand select?

It definitely seems like they are relying on the vets, even the new free agent vets to lead the pr/culture/vibe while qb is just 1 of 11 after that massive draft gamble. 

[Tbe]

35 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

How could you have that takeaway? Just rewatched those 2 min and it shows Dan fully in control. There’s even a spot where Tepp looks to him and asks who he likes… Dan says Wallace, who we drafted. Seems like he’s making the call. 
 

end of the day, Tepp cuts Morgan’s paychecks so I don’t really expect him to be rude or ignore him. 

Did you miss Dan turning to T during that jets trade to see if T thinks it’s a good idea?

Or all the shots of Dan bouncing ideas off T to get feedback.

Or the fact that T sat between Dan and Canales.

I get T is the owner, but he gives nothing of value in those discussions. 

Dan needs better quality input.

If you’ve ever worked in corporate, you know how fast people bend to the HIPPO even if that person isn’t really being a jerk about it.

Just my observation.

[Tbe]

8 minutes ago, SOJA said:

After watching these i have a conspiracy. I think the Panthers are very seriously considering moving on from Bryce after this season if things go poorly. Particularly in episode two Bryce is not shown a lot nor is mentioned much. It's all about "building the team and the culture". Nothing we have done this offseason would preclude us from dropping another rookie or a veteran in next year. 

If next year is a trainwreck and we have the number one overall pick again, why would Morgan/Canales stake their jobs on a guy they ultimately both didn't hand select?

They have to move on if he’s a trainwreck. They have no other option.

The kicker will be if both he and Icky are train wrecks. 

No good options at that point.

[PghPanther]

They are expecting the fans of this team to act like they are mired in a battered wife syndrome........no thanks.........leave if you want...............but I won't take the beatings anymore.

[CRA]

20 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You didn't watch the video?  Did you really just get into an argument about a video you didn't watch?  I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.  

I know enough, people saw Tepper's face and had a reaction about what he has consistently been here.  Seems fair.   So I call it fair. 

I have given up Panther content entering a season.  That was made last offseason.   Panthers control too much in that content space now and I'm not buying any preseason thoughts at this stage about how Tepper is now different, new GM is now different because insert whatever, etc.  It's Groundhog Day at this point.

I'm waiting on proof at this point.  Until then, it all is what it is. 

[strato]

Whether Tepper is or is not influencing/controlling things really is secondary. He has earned people not liking the sight of him. He will have to earn his way to grace.

[RJK]

Evero was in this episode for maybe 3-4 seconds 

[1989]

16 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Gotta practice my Luuuuuke chant for when Jewell makes a tackle

“That’s not Luke…that’s the other white linebacker we have.”

 

hahahaha miss those days

[jb2288]

27 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Did you miss Dan turning to T during that jets trade to see if T thinks it’s a good idea?

Or all the shots of Dan bouncing ideas off T to get feedback.

Or the fact that T sat between Dan and Canales.

I get T is the owner, but he gives nothing of value in those discussions. 

Dan needs better quality input.

If you’ve ever worked in corporate, you know how fast people bend to the HIPPO even if that person isn’t really being a jerk about it.

Just my observation.

I guess we have different experiences in corporate America. Imo it would be far far weirder to sit there and essentially ignore your CEO when talking about personnel decisions, however to your point the person you hire for that job should always have final say. Input is fine, but you hire a smart person to play a role and ultimately let them make the call… from what I see that is how we did it this draft. 
 

ultimately the way I interpret this video is Dan got everyone he wanted when it was our turn at the podium. Def a chance PR isn’t releasing all the decision making process but from the limited part I saw it looked quite solid with a decision maker who got final say regardless of outside factors and input. 

[bandu]

37 minutes ago, Tbe said:

They have to move on if he’s a trainwreck. They have no other option.

The kicker will be if both he and Icky are train wrecks. 

No good options at that point.

maybe having an upgrade LG will help Ickey this year but that's the thing I think Ickey belongs at LG instead of at LT 

& let's be honest Brady Christensen is a better option at LT. it's just Ickey was the 6th overall pick & they are going to try & shove a square block into a round hole over & over in an attempt to develop him until it's a lost cause

 

Edited June 19 by bandu

[jb2288]

45 minutes ago, SOJA said:

After watching these i have a conspiracy. I think the Panthers are very seriously considering moving on from Bryce after this season if things go poorly. Particularly in episode two Bryce is not shown a lot nor is mentioned much. It's all about "building the team and the culture". Nothing we have done this offseason would preclude us from dropping another rookie or a veteran in next year. 

If next year is a trainwreck and we have the number one overall pick again, why would Morgan/Canales stake their jobs on a guy they ultimately both didn't hand select?

That’s a smart move from our PR team if true. I’m a Bryce supporter but I’ve said many times we will know by Thanksgiving if he’s our guy or not. If he is, you don’t need a PR team to hype your QB that will come naturally. If he isn’t, you can hopefully move on amicably and setup Brooks and XL as your young core to build off 

[ForJimmy]

32 minutes ago, CRA said:

I know enough, people saw Tepper's face and had a reaction about what he has consistently been here.  Seems fair.   So I call it fair. 

I have given up Panther content entering a season.  That was made last offseason.   Panthers control too much in that content space now and I'm not buying any preseason thoughts at this stage about how Tepper is now different, new GM is now different because insert whatever, etc.  It's Groundhog Day at this point.

I'm waiting on proof at this point.  Until then, it all is what it is. 

I'm just saying if you watched that video and took away from it Tepper is messing up again, you either weren't paying attention or were going to come away with that opinion no matter what.  I don't care if people like him or not.  I don't care for him right now.  It was mainly a video about how Morgan operated the draft.  Maybe they intentionally made it appear that way, but it was pretty clear they either wanted us to think this is Morgan's baby or it really is.  Again not watching the video I think you are just wanting to argue or shoot the poo for a minute.  

[Bear Hands]

Brown, Jewell & Robinson look to be the leadership on defense. Jewell is a guy who I think is pretty unheralded. He was really strong for the Broncos.

On offense, Hunt looks like the dude on the line but it still maybe slim leadership wise elsewhere. Thielen is a good voice but he’s slowing down on the field. Really need a skill position guy that really makes this offense something/anything notable and helps create a culture. The next maybes are Legette/Brooks/Sanders.. we’ll see what they can do. Unsure on Bryce.