Nate Tice article on Bryce Young

[Jackie Lee]

More of the same, but with actual statistics thrown in with the film review. It's a long one

He puts blame on the offense and coaches as well, but doesn't sound too high on Bryce's ceiling. Lots of words but here's the basic summary

Young’s lack of arm strength and size creates little room for error in his play. If he takes one extra hitch or is a hair late getting rid of the football, defenders often make plays on the ball or squeeze windows even tighter. The issue is that Young constantly needs to take an extra hitch to get enough zip on the ball when throwing to the outside and he often needs to work backward in the pocket to see that target.

What does this all mean for Young going forward? Well, let’s just say it’s not exactly a rosy start to his professional career. It’s a rough statistical profile and his play wasn’t overwhelming when I studied him. Yes, former No. 1 picks like Goff and Trevor Lawrence have overcome their horrid rookie years to become viable quarterbacks, but those are the exceptions to the rule, and Lawrence showed more glimpses of high-end play during his rookie year during the Urban Meyer experience than Young did under Reich and the rest of the Panthers' funky bunch coaches. This is not to say that Young is a bust already, either. His accuracy and intelligence still translate to every offense and still give him a floor as a viable starter, and better teammates, like the newly acquired Diontae Johnson and explosive rookie wideout Xavier Legette, should help highlight those traits even more. But, you take a player No. 1 overall to move the needle, not to just get the job done.

Young has a path to be a quarterback who can keep an offense on time with some ad-libbing ability to add creativity and spice to an offense (Alex Smith, another quarterback with a rough rookie season, is a play style and career comparison I keep coming back to for Young). But to justify that 1.1 selection, Young (and Canales) have to push it even more in 2024 and beyond.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bryce-youngs-hopes-for-a-bounce-back-season-with-panthers-comes-down-to-more-than-just-his-supporting-cast-140010168.html

Edited June 13 by Jackie Lee

[Jackie Lee]

 

[PootieNunu]

Alex Smith is his ceiling imo 

KC wasnt taking home any rings with him as their QB even with a stacked team around him. 

That kind of play can get you to the playoffs and thats about it. WC weekend going home. 

[Bear Hands]

It’s a good read. Lots of valid observations. 

[strato]

25 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

 

Young’s lack of arm strength and size creates little room for error in his play. If he takes one extra hitch or is a hair late getting rid of the football, defenders often make plays on the ball or squeeze windows even tighter. The issue is that Young constantly needs to take an extra hitch to get enough zip on the ball when throwing to the outside and he often needs to work backward in the pocket to see that target.

 

Some people are gonna be so mad with that arm strength description. I agree with it, and feel we are hamstrung by limitations and it will require much extra effort and investment to prop him up. The opposite of how he was sold by the organization and the media. 

The hitch is exactly what I saw when I looked at his film. It is right there for all to see at his pro day. Probably still online. It is just there if you look, it isn’t something I made up for some made up reason like oh that means I hate Bryce Young (people today are so freaking dramatic).

[rayzor]

it's like it writes itself. you don't have to do any thinking. just keep repeating the same things that everyone else does.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, rayzor said:

it's like it writes itself. you don't have to do any thinking. just keep repeating the same things that everyone else does.

Copy and paste. 

[strato]

Wow, it’s like he didn’t even watch film to inform his opinions.

[jfra78]

28 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Alex Smith is his ceiling imo 

KC wasnt taking home any rings with him as their QB even with a stacked team around him. 

That kind of play can get you to the playoffs and thats about it. WC weekend going home. 

I compared him to Bridgewater before the draft and I stand by the comparison

[KSpan]

30 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I compared him to Bridgewater before the draft and I stand by the comparison

I never thought Bridgewater's arm could look strong, but after watching Bryce last year it turns out I was wrong.

[Jackie Lee]

 

[Jackie Lee]

It will never be physically imposing, for clear reasons. Nothing he can do about that, nothing he should do about that. He needs better coaching, and the weapons need to be better than they were last year. We’ll see if it translates. (if it doesn’t, he won’t get better, and we know how those stories tend to go after 25-30 starts…nature of the biz) The noise doesn’t really matter. Young has the mental make up to work through this, and to me, the goal is LESS “prove he’s a franchise quarterback” in year 2, and MORE “work the plan, harmonize w/ the new WR/TE pieces, incrementally elevate his game.”

That’s just how I’d be looking at it, but I understand it can be frustrating.

[jayboogieman]

1 hour ago, PootieNunu said:

Alex Smith is his ceiling imo 

KC wasnt taking home any rings with him as their QB even with a stacked team around him. 

That kind of play can get you to the playoffs and thats about it. WC weekend going home. 

I'm sure most people would be happy to have that after all the previous years under Tepper. Five winning seasons in a row plus 4 years of playoffs is a lot better than what the Panthers have done since the last SB appearance.

[Ricky Spanish]

46 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I compared him to Bridgewater before the draft and I stand by the comparison

It's not a good comparison though.

Teddy was ultra-hyper conservative and very rarely ever threw the ball past 10 yards ever. When he did it was accurate, but he rarely ever did it.

Bryce threw more intermediate passes (10-20 yards) in like 5 games than Teddy did all season for us.

Arm Strength is similar but that's about it.