REPORT: RB Jonathon Brooks (knee) may not be ready for the start of training camp.

[ForJimmy]

27 minutes ago, hepcat said:

This team has been at the beginning of a rebuild for the last 6 years

[rayzor]

Y'all sure know how to make mountains out of pimples.

[panthers55]

47 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Sorry, but i completely disagree. We do care about immediate impact. Not for winning since we’ve sucked for 6 years, but because we don’t have a talented team. If a rookie can’t make an immediate impact, he’s not going to be some solid starter in year 2 or 3. Terrace Marshall has taken a few years but I’d argue that his inability to beat Robbie and Shi Smith for a starting spot in camp(s) showed us everything we now know.

Our rookies better be showing us a lot of flashes. If Brooks doesn’t start this season, that’s not a good thing and he won’t be better for it. Same with Wallace and Sanders. We don’t want a DJ Johnson barely playing when we’ve got mediocre starters all over the place.

Given this is Canales first season any comparisons about the past are irrelevant. We have a completely new team and they picked him for the longterm. The only opinions that matter are Morgan and Canales. Maybe a major reason players didn't get better was due to a cavalcade of poor to middling coaches and fruit basket turnover. Let's see what he does and how he uses him before deciding  whether it was a good move or not. Just saying, it is barely June.

[WhoKnows]

15 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Given this is Canales first season any comparisons about the past are irrelevant. We have a completely new team and they picked him for the longterm. The only opinions that matter are Morgan and Canales. Maybe a major reason players didn't get better was due to a cavalcade of poor to middling coaches and fruit basket turnover. Let's see what he does and how he uses him before deciding  whether it was a good move or not. Just saying, it is barely June.

Huh? I didn’t even mention a coach or GM, but talent is talent. Marshall, DJ Johnson (Evero still there) and others didn’t flash at all. Coaches didn’t stop them from winning snaps.

Did DJ Moore look like a good WR regardless of coach? Did CMC? Did Burns and Moton?

All I said was that with our talent level and holes on the roster, rookies should make an immediate impact, regardless of coach. It wouldn’t take much to start if our rookies are really good. When Brooks is healthy, he better start because beating Hubbard and Sanders doesn’t take much. If Sanders can’t beat out Thomas/Tremble by the end of the year, that’s not a good sign for the future. Marshall had his path to starting handed to him and he did nothing. 

[countryboi]

Its no problem, we can bring him along slow, even if he were healthy I dont know how much burn he would get early. this why you have vets like Chuba, Sanders and Penny

[Shocker]

7 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

We gave up our 2nd rounder and 2 5th round picks to the Colts to draft a RB coming off November ACL surgery. I like Brooks he has some Jamaal Charles to his game but this was very risky pick. 

Absolutely agree, surprised personally we didn’t go with someone like Benson. 

[WUnderhill]

2 hours ago, hepcat said:

This team has been at the beginning of a rebuild for the last 6 years

It took Jay-Z 7.

[Camp Fodder]

1 hour ago, Shocker said:

Absolutely agree, surprised personally we didn’t go with someone like Benson. 

This. It was a stupid pick. Could have taken Frazier here and rb in round 3 or 4 that would have actually played. 

[RJK]

11 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its a 6 winish season, hes not going to be 100% for a while, should have just got a center or pass rusher or whatever and drafted a rb next year

It’s not even really about Brooks, maybe he’ll be good. There were better players that fit bigger needs available. Just more roster and draft mismanagement which points to nothing changing anytime soon. 

Edited June 13 by RJK

[kungfoodude]

Honestly, he's a RB. It isn't that relevant that he even plays in the short term because he was a luxury pick in the first place. We just need him to heal up and stay healthy afterwards. 

[strato]

There is something to player development being affected by coaching staff instability. That isn’t a fantasy.

It has to be a factor. It was a factor. We don’t know much about much because it was just this churn of players from recent drafts not being the new coach’s ‘guy’.

It is a different value system every other year or maybe twice in the same year and lately an annual thing, every time changing the fundamentals of your evaluations and also what is being taught. 

This isn’t me saying Fitterer or whoever made those calls on which players to draft/sign/release/trade/not trade, wasn’t bad. 

I think I am saying that dysfunction breeds malfunction and the ideal is a focused and aligned staff for multiple years to see if you can grow players. Consistency, stability, probably what the team needs.

Edited June 13 by strato

[Ricky Prickles]

16 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

therein lies the rub, the panthers are not a team that can sit a player for a year, our roster isnt anywhere close to that

We arent winning the super bowl this year anyhow so what difference does it make?

[Ricky Prickles]

The guy isn't far removed from that ACL tear, no poo he wont be ready for the start of training camp. It is best to be safe with an ACL tear and be conservative with the healing approach so we can get the 100% version of him or as close as possible when he do4es come back then look to the following season for him to be a workhorse type. Anybody that thought any different would be fooling themselves but lets bitch and whine about how the Panthers are so dumb blah blah blah. Newsflash: WE WERE NOT GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR ANYHOW AND THIS WAS A PICK WITH THE LONGER TERM FUTURE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. 

[Ricky Prickles]

57 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Honestly, he's a RB. It isn't that relevant that he even plays in the short term because he was a luxury pick in the first place. We just need him to heal up and stay healthy afterwards. 

This person consistently shows a fully functional brain and is able to use it quite frequently without grabbing his pitchfork and rushing the castle at midnight angrily with ever shred of news that is not exactly what we hope for.