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Stroud was salty panthers didn't draft him

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18 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

 

I don't know what's up with the title must have been looking for clicks.

Early in the video some of what he's saying is in line with what we've seen. But he veers off into sheer fantasy territory when he starts talking about Bryce Young's downfield deep balls at Alabama. He had the worst deep ball by far between him Mac Jones Hurts and Tua. People want to talk Bryce Young but say these things and can't figure out why they are dismissed. People need to learn to discern what they hope for versus what's actually happened. Bryce Young has simply never been a consistently good deep passer at either level to this point. Even at his hyped pro day his deep ball was described as underwhelming at best. For a first overall pick!? It's always been there for anyone to see. Unless that changes he will not be a franchise QB in this league for any team regardless of the circumstances. That's what Canales has to get out of him.

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5 minutes ago, frankw said:

I don't know what's up with the title must have been looking for clicks.

Early in the video some of what he's saying is in line with what we've seen. But he veers off into sheer fantasy territory when he starts talking about Bryce Young's downfield deep balls at Alabama. He had the worst deep ball by far between him Mac Jones Hurts and Tua. People want to talk Bryce Young but say these things and can't figure out why they are dismissed. People need to learn to discern what they hope for versus what's actually happened. Bryce Young has simply never been a consistently good deep passer at either level to this point. Even at his hyped pro day his deep ball was described as underwhelming at best. For a first overall pick!? It's always been there for anyone to see. Unless that changes he will not be a franchise QB in this league for any team regardless of the circumstances. That's what Canales has to get out of him.

God bless you for devoting any time to that moron

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22 hours ago, BrisbanePanther said:

Foe sure. I lived in Charlotte and Houston for almost the same number years (5 and 6, respectively). Stroud would've been fine in Charlotte but he and Houston actually fit together like a hand in glove. He just works for that identity in that city much like Harden did for the Rockets. Houston is a big time, gaudy metropolis that's the geographic size of Massachusetts. Charlotte is more like a cute, pleasant, polite city who had a ton of pearl clutchers with Cam. It is what it is.

Stroud was drafted and Paul Wall was getting him fitted for gold fronts. In hindsight, lol at the thought of Bryce in Houston and gold fronts. I love Charlotte, but he definitely fits that city. 

As someone who has been to most metropolitan areas of this country, your description of Houston is pretty strange.

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36 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

As someone who has been to most metropolitan areas of this country, your description of Houston is pretty strange.

One mans gaudy metropolis is another mans expansive shithole

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I wanted Stroud and I think Stroud had an excellent rookie campaign last year. However, I just get the feeling he's going to hit a Sophomore slump. 

A) I think a lot of people were taken by surprise by their offense, and I imagine there has been a great deal of time put in by opposing DCs to learn habits, tendencies, etc. 

B) Their schedule is much harder than last season and includes a Miami, Kansas City, Baltimore stretch in the middle of December. 

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14 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I wanted Stroud and I think Stroud had an excellent rookie campaign last year. However, I just get the feeling he's going to hit a Sophomore slump. 

A) I think a lot of people were taken by surprise by their offense, and I imagine there has been a great deal of time put in by opposing DCs to learn habits, tendencies, etc. 

B) Their schedule is much harder than last season and includes a Miami, Kansas City, Baltimore stretch in the middle of December. 

Why all this is possible, you cant rule out the fact that Houston didnt improve the team in the off season to be ready for this. They added diggs, they added another RB to help a run game that struggled, they had a pretty good draft. I mean it wasnt like they sat around and did nothing all off season. They are moving like a team thats fully aware what they are capable of and think they can win now than later. I thinks its completely up in the air if a slump is on the way.

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On 6/4/2024 at 2:36 AM, CPF4LIFE said:

Nobody really knows what the texans were gonna do or who they wanted. To assume that they were all in on bryce originally but then turnaround and brush off rumors that the whole panther coaching staff wanted Stroud and were overruled by ownership just sounds hypocritical. 

I think we should be balanced here. There seems to be a deference here to Texans wisdom and Panthers foolery when it came to these picks.

But let's review, at draft time Caserio reportedly had one foot out of the door. McNair was in the same category as Tepper (people actually suspected he paid Buzbee to go after his own player, Watson). The fans were down in a football town in a football state. We are giving way too much hindsight credit to the Texans.

At the same time, all we have to go by are reports from both teams and other media. We are being creative in saying "no one knows" what the Texans were thinking while being convinced that "we know" what the Panthers were doing. We have no access to either HQ, but people who do said that Houston wanted Bryce and also saud Tepper wanted Bryce. 

I also think any reading into the Texans not going to #1 has to also consider that they also ended up moving to #3. It's just as possible that the capital used to go to #3 would've been needed to go to #1. Winding up with #1 only or with #2 and #3 would be an easy decision.

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2 hours ago, BrisbanePanther said:

Strange how?

Houston is not what I would call a "gaudy metropolis." There is only one area in Texas that fits that description and it's Dallas/Forth Worth.

Houston is quite a bit dingier/dirtier by comparison, IMO. Also, Houston has a VERY large footprint and so despite being a significantly larger city than CLT it typically doesn't feel more densely populated than CLT in the downtown area(sometimes it feels less so on foot). 

In general it's not a fair comparison because Houston metro is about 2.5 times the size of Charlotte metro. It doesn't take much in terms of support there to keep a team afloat. 

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On 6/3/2024 at 5:17 PM, jb2288 said:

Hahahaha. Yeah buddy keep telling yourself that. Totally were a playoff team last year 

Somehow we went from potential playoff team that ran for over 300 yards in an NFL game, and a collapse by Ickey away from the playoffs, to 1-16. The loss of Darnold and Wilks hurt more than anyone in this forum will ever recognize, aside from me. 

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