Will the Panthers be better than most are expecting?

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, the huddle keeps beating this division will suck mantra....but we happen to be the clear cut worst team in the division.   

I'm amazed at how soon some forget that.

[strato]

43 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, the huddle keeps beating this division will suck mantra....but we happen to be the clear cut worst team in the division.   

There is so much fodder here... 

[panfanman]

. . .no. . .

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

I think the D could be worse.  Not drastically.  But takes a step back. 

I also could Bryce turning the ball over more in Canales scheme/O.  Given the asks under what we assume will be Canales offense will look like......don't play to what Bryce naturally does well.  The counter to that, is maybe Canales goes heavy Wilks approach and we play 1970s football and beat some weak teams and surprise folks on the actual record. 

 

Yeah, I concerned the D might take a noticeable step back and the offense might not take a big enough step forward to cover that.

[WUnderhill]

4 hours ago, CRA said:

I think the D could be worse.  Not drastically.  But takes a step back. 

I also could Bryce turning the ball over more in Canales scheme/O.  Given the asks under what we assume will be Canales offense will look like......don't play to what Bryce naturally does well.  The counter to that, is maybe Canales goes heavy Wilks approach and we play 1970s football and beat some weak teams and surprise folks on the actual record. 

 

I don’t get the hype around last years D. It was a bad defense, IMO, that benefited from teams just playing vanilla and risk free football because our offense was so bad they knew they didn’t need to do much. They couldn’t stop the run and couldn’t generate turnovers. The only thing they were average at was rushing the passer. I see a slightly worse pass rush this year and much better run D, with the secondary being a wash.

[Davidson Deac II]

On 5/30/2024 at 5:59 PM, Jon Snow said:

Ask me after preseason. 

Ask me after a few actual games.

If someone had ask me how good we would be in 2015 after preseason, I would have said 8-8, maybe 9-7.

 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Ask me after a few actual games.

If someone had ask me how good we would be in 2015 after preseason, I would have said 8-8, maybe 9-7.

 

True, and preseason is nothing like it use to be.

[amcoolio]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

I mean, the huddle keeps beating this division will suck mantra....but we happen to be the clear cut worst team in the division.   

Yes, we were the clear cut worst last year.  However there's tons of examples of the worst team in a division from last year being way better the next year, especially in the NFC South, a very parity driven division. In reality, on paper the Panthers aren't far off from Tampa or New Orleans at all. Defensively on par with Atlanta. And there's tons of factors that affect winning and losing than just the perceived talent of a team

[bga71]

Panthers will be division champs.

[Mike in Raleigh]

I'll take the L's as long as the team is competitive. I'd consider that an improvement and something to build on.

[Jackie Lee]

 

[WhoKnows]

On 5/30/2024 at 5:58 PM, chknwing said:

carolina is winning the division. prove me wrong

The last time we won the division was 2015. The only time we were close was in 2017 when we still had a good Cam, Olsen, TD, CMC, Luke and others and in 2022 when the division winner was under .500. Other than the past long ago we haven’t really been close.

Edited June 2, 2024 by WhoKnows

[WhoKnows]

30 minutes ago, Mike in Raleigh said:

I'll take the L's as long as the team is competitive. I'd consider that an improvement and something to build on.

Agreed. I want to see improvements everywhere so we can identify what we actually need. Can Sanders be our go forward TE? Can Iky be salvaged? Is Brooks a long term answer? Is Leggette legit? What do we need on D? I still see Young as holding us back but hopefully we get visibility to plan for future drafts.

[strato]

Yeah there is a lot to learn about players. Coaches too, and we might see if Morgan is or is not getting it right.

If watching them is just a little more fun than painful, I’ll take it.