The franchise guy Carolina Panthers Deep Dive

[Mother Grabber]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not completely writing off Bryce but I'm 99% sure he just doesn't have the physical talent to succeed in the NFL.

then you’re 99% writing him off.

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

then you’re 99% writing him off.

Did you figure that one out all by yourself? LOL

[CPF4LIFE]

54 minutes ago, Coheed said:

Want that dude nowhere near the team, dude is a bigger show boat than Cam but half the ability.
 

And especially after not seeing what he had to say about a former team mate that criticized him(Sanders) for never making an effort to know him. Sanders went as far as far to tweet that he had no idea who the dude was and he had to have been “mid at best”. Bro your team finished 4-8, chill.

 

good content for the timeline, but not what you want in a franchise QB. I fundamentally question his ability to face adversity most importantly, gel with the rest of an NFL locker room without his dad running the show.  He seems like the type of dude to constantly give other teams ammunition, but never good enough to warrant it.

 

would gladly take Travis hunter tho 

I get all that personal vendetta you have against him but thats not how this works. Teams will look whether further than all the stuff you just said....plus he has whole new year of evaluation to determine his status. Highlighting all the negative themes and ignoring the positive isnt gonna get him passed up. He has already shown an elite skillset and if shows even more improvement this year he will be the first pick. If guys like penix and nix can go top 15 sanders will definitley go hire no matter how much people dont like him.

[Coheed]

1 minute ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I get all that personal vendetta you have against him but thats not how this works. Teams will look whether further than all the stuff you just said....plus he has whole new year of evaluation to determine his status. Highlighting all the negative themes and ignoring the positive isnt gonna get him passed up. He has already shown an elite skillset and if shows even more improvement this year he will be the first pick. If guys like penix and nix can go top 15 sanders will definitley go hire no matter how much people dont like him.

Lmao just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean theres a personal vendetta bro

[amcoolio]

Some of the huddlers here will only be happy with Patrick Mahomes as our QB. They would legit complain if we had Josh Allen and pine for an upgrade. They won't admit it but they know who they are 

Listen, we've been a franchise for almost 30 years, and not once did most Panther fans like the quarterback we have. Cam reached I'd say an 80% approval rate in 2015, but it was back to being in the 50's following the SB. "We will never win anything with Cam as our QB" was a strong narrative on here after the SB.

[Mother Grabber]

26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Did you figure that one out all by yourself? LOL

please explain the difference between saying you aren’t writing someone off, but then also saying you don’t think he’s good enough. sounds like pretty much like the same damn thing to me.

oh sorry, forgot to add the LOL, because being a condescending douche is a requirement on todays huddle.

Edited May 28 by Mother Grabber

[CRA]

20 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I get all that personal vendetta you have against him but thats not how this works. Teams will look whether further than all the stuff you just said....plus he has whole new year of evaluation to determine his status. Highlighting all the negative themes and ignoring the positive isnt gonna get him passed up. He has already shown an elite skillset and if shows even more improvement this year he will be the first pick. If guys like penix and nix can go top 15 sanders will definitley go hire no matter how much people dont like him.

Sanders played last season with his personal stat line in mind.  And did his OL no favors even if you want to call them trash.    And I think you can legitimately question his DNA as a leader present day. 

Penix and Nix both played big boy college football....and won.  Sanders won 4 games at Colorado and is on 6 game losing stretch. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

please explain the difference between saying you aren’t writing someone off, but then also saying you don’t think he’s good enough. sounds like pretty much like the same damn thing to me.

oh sorry, forgot to add the LOL, because being a condescending douche is a requirement on todays huddle.

Go back and read. I said I'm not completely writing him off. But yeah, at this point I'd honestly be borderline shocked if he works out. 

You're the one who acted like a condescending douche while failing at reading comprehension. Don't get butthurt about it. Ice up son.

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Some of the huddlers here will only be happy with Patrick Mahomes as our QB. They would legit complain if we had Josh Allen and pine for an upgrade. They won't admit it but they know who they are 

Listen, we've been a franchise for almost 30 years, and not once did most Panther fans like the quarterback we have. Cam reached I'd say an 80% approval rate in 2015, but it was back to being in the 50's following the SB. "We will never win anything with Cam as our QB" was a strong narrative on here after the SB.

stats and logical fallacies are fun to make up

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Go back and read. I said I'm not completely writing him off. But yeah, at this point I'd honestly be borderline shocked if he works out. 

You're the one who acted like a condescending douche while failing at reading comprehension. Don't get butthurt about it. Ice up son.

bryce up son

and our franchise got duped by a kid that never took snaps from under center in college, how the fug does that happen?

[outlaw4]

1 hour ago, WUnderhill said:

Love how this has already turned into the same few posters rehashing their same talking points from every other Bryce Young related thread and completely ignoring the video.

That's why I rarely read what anyone else says on threads like these. Opinions aren't really going to change in the offseason, only once actual football is being played.

I don't envy anyone having to watch last season's tape, however. So many things went wrong that even just getting a realistic opportunity to succeed for anyone was too few and far between. 

[ECHornet]

3 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

And yet Bryce had the 14th longest time to throw in the league. That’s pretty average. 

If you watched the video, they discussed how Bryce was constantly in retreat on his drops. I bet the "time to throw" stats would look a lot different if he didn't retreat.

We all watched last year. If you want to argue our IOL play was average, go right ahead. I wont be joining you.

Edited May 28 by ECHornet

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

If you watched the video, they discussed how Bryce was constantly in retreat on his drops. I bet the "time to throw" stats would look a lot different if he didn't retreat.

We all watched last year. If you want to argue our IOL play was average last year, go right ahead. I wont be joining you.

video also says QB Bryce was horrible pre snap and post snap.   That's how you make whatever your OL is......look way worse.    And he wasn't good at that at Bama either per the guy in the video. 

He also spoke about how Bryce's size forces him too far back in the pocket.  Which is going to screw up pass pro. 

 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

video also says QB Bryce was horrible pre snap and post snap.   That's how you make whatever your OL is......look way worse. 

He also spoke about how Bryce's size forces him too far back in the pocket.  Which is going to screw up pass pro. 

 

that video/analysis did bryce and his supporters no favors, but anyone with a brain can see his bunny rabbit hops and long slow drop backs are a huge issue