Charlotte Observer: Official newspaper of the New Orleans Hornets

[Mesmer]

Its the Charlotte mentality. Anyone with an opinion that differs from mine I want them "banned" or "supressed" or I'll just move to other side of town far away from them so I wont have to hear it.

Charlotte is definitely one of them, but isn't this basically found in any suburban area of a big city?

[Porn Shop Clerk]

When people say a city is a nice place to raise kids, what they really mean is "we're thoroughly segregated".

[Zcustom]

Hey, PSC, skip all the rhetoric in this thread and tell me if you really think the article in question talks about the NO Hornets enough to paint the observer as the official newspaper of the NO hornets.

Let's see if you can do what KT can't, answer a question directly.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Its not the newspaper of the Charlotte Bobcats, that's for sure. And its mostly Tom SorASSon with his little digs at Robert Johnson. Rick Bonnell is the one that likes to act like the Bobs are beneath his coverage, and can't wait to spin everything they do in a negative light. And now that ownership has changed (only slightly, honestly only the face of the ownership group has changed. If anyone thinks Michael is gonna do anything differently than what Bob did, they're delusional) so has the the tones in the articles.

This is what I think is happening, and I'll explain it with a little less LOL than KT does.

Tom SorASSon and Rick Boner didn't get the luxury treatment from Bob Johnson that they thought they deserved. You know, the whining, dining, 69ing, etc, and they harbor massive amounts of butthurt over it to this day, even though it happened well over 100 years ago. They started with their petty disassembling of the Bobcats over the years, which just alienated Johnson even more from the Observer and community.

People and businesses in the area just weren't interested in the NBA the way Bob was led to believe, and he made several mistakes because of that. Mistakes that were all rectified ASAP.

Of course, their little digs at the 'Cats brings out all the internets racists, some of which probably don't even live in the area. They just like to talk poo and spread butthurt, and racism is one of the easiest subjects to troll. KT reads those comments, (which I don't think some of you do, and don't know where this is all coming from) as well as I do.

Then we come here to try to discuss it rationally in a place where we think other fans would congregate to discuss issues (I wouldn't be caught dead posting on the slobserver's forums or comments. I migrated here from there during the great ClayJ fiasco on those forums, and watched the great ClayJ meltdown on these forums as well, which was awesome) only to have the same ignorant comments slung around as the ones in the Observer's comments sections that are usually peppered with vague racial slurs like "hip hop environment" or "thugs". On here, you're a little less anonymous than the slobserver, so people don't generally take it that far.

On top of that, add to the glossing of the Hornets history by the Observer, from the aforementioned quote about longing for Shinn to "Bob Johnson was the worst owner in Charlotte's sports history", both actual quotes from the Observer, and both from Sorenson I think. Sorenson likes to take personal digs at Bob, and Bonnell likes to take digs at the team, because they were both frozen out of the organization for being hack journalists.

So KT isn't that far off on his accusations. He's just throwing a little more wood on the fire with his presentation. They may not report on the Hornets as much as the Bobcats, but when they do, its all nostalgia and good times, never a mention of Shinn's actions that caused the Hornets to leave.

The national media doesn't do that, hell, the Gaston Gazette covers the Bobcats with less bias (than two reporters that thump their chests about how unbiased they are because they aren't Panther fans every other article) than the Observer. And Gastonia is way more racist as a culture than Charlotte. If it weren't for Charlotte I couldn't live in this area with all its white trash debutantes and redneck fratboys.

I think a lot of you just breeze over their articles (if any of you guys even read them) and not give much thought to the wording, but I know exactly what those two jackasses are doing, and that's subtly skewing the article to paint the 'Cats or ownership in a negative light. Either that, or neither is disciplined enough of a writer to keep their personal butthurt from perverting their work.

Either way, both of them are a joke, and attract the lowest common denominator like certain posters to my vinegar flavored nuts.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Cool story bro.

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[Zcustom]

Well, it was a simple yes or no question, but let's not dwell on that.

Yes the observer and their writers suck, but I thought that was common knowledge?

I have never read the comments on their site since I never visit it, maybe that explains why this is so foreign to me.

Basically you admit that, like many topics, KT is making more of this than there really is. That's the only thing that bugs me, the observer being shitty and a worthless paper is pretty well known. Shouldn't be a shock that that's the case.

Moreover, the only way they can increase readership as a dying form of media is to be controversial. So they're picking on the little guy, which is despicable, but on their level.

What I don't get is, Why would you drum up interest in their articles and post links to their site, driving up their numbers, to prove a point?? That's just pandering to their interests. We all know they suck, why improve the traffic to their site/paper to prove something we already know?

[King Taharqa]

Basically you admit that, like many topics, KT is making more of this than there really is. That's the only thing that bugs me, the observer being sh*tty and a worthless paper is pretty well known. Shouldn't be a shock that that's the case.

KT is not making more of this than there really is, you're just not very knowledgable about whats going on. And if it bugs you that much I invite you to put me on ignore. Im still waiting for you set Sorenson straight and have a beer with him and explain how his irresponsible journalism rips this community apart. You are still down to that right?

And if we all know the Observer sucks why are they given more credibility than the Bobcats front office? Bob Johnson says he doesnt name his team after himself, no one in this town believes. The second Tom Sorenson or one of the other mindreaders says "he did it to name it after himself" it becomes fact. The whole "my tax dollars went towards a handout to a black business" crap all started at the Observer. All the lies and misinformation thats put out about the Bobs are all nurtured and cultivated at the Observer and their comments section.

Moreover, the only way they can increase readership as a dying form of media is to be controversial. So they're picking on the little guy, which is despicable, but on their level.

And yet people cant respond to that garbage? If I was slamming the Observer for misinformation about the Panthers (which people do on this forum all the time) not a word from Zcustom. I guess us Bobcats fans are supposed to let a business like the Observer get their money at our expense. NOT!

What I don't get is, Why would you drum up interest in their articles and post links to their site, driving up their numbers, to prove a point?? That's just pandering to their interests. We all know they suck, why improve the traffic to their site/paper to prove something we already know?

What I dont get is, people claiming they're a "fan" of a particular sports team, yet they go out of their way to distance its founder from any positive success it may have had. Those same people do the exact opposite with the Panthers. Anything negative about the team is lumped on Fox, Delhomme, or anybody else but the owner. And just like us, they had 1 winning season their first 6 years.

[Zcustom]

KT is not making more of this than there really is, you're just not very knowledgable about whats going on. And if it bugs you that much I invite you to put me on ignore. Im still waiting for you set Sorenson straight and have a beer with him and explain how his irresponsible journalism rips this community apart. You are still down to that right?

You are making more of it than there is, plain and simple. If I'm not very knowledgeable inform me oh wise one. BTW I invited you for a beer, but that assumed you go to the games. I'm not concerned enough about the disturbers articles to do your work for you, how about you handle that yourself?

And if we all know the Observer sucks why are they given more credibility than the Bobcats front office? Bob Johnson says he doesnt name his team after himself, no one in this town believes. The second Tom Sorenson or one of the other mindreaders says "he did it to name it after himself" it becomes fact. The whole "my tax dollars went towards a handout to a black business" crap all started at the Observer. All the lies and misinformation thats put out about the Bobs are all nurtured and cultivated at the Observer and their comments section.

You should be able to find these articles since they are so inflammatory to you, they must be saved on your hard drive right? Post them for discussion, give example and proof. How can you be a good rabble rouser without the facts to back it up?

And yet people cant respond to that garbage? If I was slamming the Observer for misinformation about the Panthers (which people do on this forum all the time) not a word from Zcustom. I guess us Bobcats fans are supposed to let a business like the Observer get their money at our expense. NOT!

I must be slow because I don't see how this makes any sense.

What I dont get is, people claiming they're a "fan" of a particular sports team, yet they go out of their way to distance its founder from any positive success it may have had. Those same people do the exact opposite with the Panthers. Anything negative about the team is lumped on Fox, Delhomme, or anybody else but the owner. And just like us, they had 1 winning season their first 6 years.

You know what it boils down to for me? I am a HUGE Bobcats fan and look forward to coming here every day and reading about the success of the team. NOT coming here only to find that the leader of this section is arguing race and being a fugstick. Racism has no place in my life and I refuse to let it become part of my life, unfortunately if nothing changes in this sub-forum I'll have to stop coming here. Is that how you plan to grow the fanbase? Not too bright if you ask me. What do I know anyway? I'm just a fan who cares about the team and wants to have a positive experience here, is that too much to ask?

[King Taharqa]

You know what it boils down to for me? I am a HUGE Bobcats fan and look forward to coming here every day and reading about the success of the team. NOT coming here only to find that the leader of this section is arguing race and being a f*ckstick.

Says the poster who always yells "kill whitey" to drown out people's concerns and be a shield for racism. The way you feel right now is how Bobcats fans have felt about our local newspaper for the past 6 years. We just wanted to discuss the team, but it had to be more than that. If you put yourself in other people's shoes maybe you'd see that instead of immediately coming in here and playing captain save a hoe for the Charlotte Observer. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore. Why wont you?

[Zcustom]

Says the poster who always yells "kill whitey" to drown out people's concerns and be a shield for racism. The way you feel right now is how Bobcats fans have felt about our local newspaper for the past 6 years. We just wanted to discuss the team, but it had to be more than that. If you put yourself in other people's shoes maybe you'd see that instead of immediately coming in here and playing captain save a hoe for the Charlotte Observer. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore. Why wont you?

Ok, so you've taken a clear joke (and Black Sheep reference) completely out of context, nice.

There's no discussion with a newspaper, sheesh.

When have I ever defended the observer, and don't just run off at the mouth, give me examples.

I won't put you on ignore because I don't need to, what would that accomplish? Why do you want me to? Tired of me forcing you to give real facts instead of just spouting off?

[Porn Shop Clerk]

I don't remember posting links to any observer articles ever on these forums, but I may be wrong. Its rare if it does happen.

But KT was using this particular article to illustrate the romantic inclinations the Observer has towards the Hornets, which I think is mostly to spite the Bobcats.

There are very few simple yes or no questions in the world. Most of them are things like "Did we forget to turn the sybian off?".

EDIT: I don't think I've ever seen KT go off unprovoked. He has strong opinions that some disagree with, and they're not used to that in their 'be cool bro' day to day existence.

Mostly I see a lot of nuthuggers that can't wait to take a shot at him any chance they get, much like they do with the Bobcats.

I don't see why so many people take personal offense at his generalized statements that clearly aren't a reflection of his opinions on this discussion forum, unless they're true.

For the record, I strongly disagree with his past stance on Jake Delhomme. I always thought KT beat him up a little unnecessarily, but damn its a message board on the internets. Stop living it you guys.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

I don't think I've ever seen KT go off unprovoked. He has strong opinions that some disagree with, and they're not used to that in their 'be cool bro' day to day existence.

Mostly I see a lot of nuthuggers that can't wait to take a shot at him any chance they get, much like they do with the Bobcats.

I don't see why so many people take personal offense at his generalized statements that clearly aren't a reflection of his opinions on this discussion forum, unless they're true.

[King Taharqa]

Bobcats Will Need Sustained Goodness To Match NOLA Hornets

Rick Bonnell explains why Charlotteans are in love with Shinn & the NOLA Hornets.

Observer=SELLOUTS

[mj4life]

Bobcats Will Need Sustained Goodness To Match NOLA Hornets

Rick Bonnell explains why Charlotteans are in love with Shinn & the NOLA Hornets.

Observer=SELLOUTS

this is the problem with this city, they need to understand that the hornets were a "Perfect Storm". a community starving for national attention and wanting to be one of the "Big Boys" embraced prof. basketball like no other city that people can remember. to expect this to happen again is part of the reason the bobcats have struggled but the local paper also plays a part as evidenced by myth of the team nickname,the bobcats lack of community involvement and such. as i remember most people weren't to crazy about the nickname, the team colors, but it grew on them.