What Exactly Is Your Criteria for Bryce in 2024 to Have Faith In Him Moving Forward 2025+ ??

[CRA]

Just now, Shotgun said:

Then we trade up to draft a deep route jump ball specialist at WR….

which was an additional red flag going in......because XL is exactly what Dave's O have been about.  Chunk pass plays downfield.  So it basically is the Panthers intentionally and knowingly doing bad marriages. 

which would have been okay......if they just went ahead and added some young talent behind Bryce that fit for when the obvious happened.  But they didn't. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

41 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Watched a lot of Panthers football have you? It's a valuable teaching tool of what not to do as a football team.

There is also probably some life lessons to be learned as well. 

[Shotgun]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

which was an additional red flag going in......because XL is exactly what Dave's O have been about.  Chunk pass plays downfield.  So it basically is the Panthers intentionally and knowingly doing bad marriages. 

which would have been okay......if they just went ahead and added some young talent behind Bryce that fit for when the obvious happened.  But they didn't. 

It almost seems like Canales isn’t really trying to help Young get better, but is trying to show Tepper how hopeless he is as a NFL QB?

 

[HPPantherzfan]

Anyway to see the voting results?  I want to see who the 6 people were that thought "He will explode for 4000+ 30+ TDs and lead us to playoffs" was the correct answer after watching him all of last year.  Just want to make sure they are ok.

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, HPPantherzfan said:

Anyway to see the voting results?  I want to see who the 6 people were that thought "He will explode for 4000+ 30+ TDs and lead us to playoffs" was the correct answer after watching him all of last year.  Just want to make sure they are ok.

I think you have to vote ( I just did).  Then you hover of the by the number of each section and click on it and it will bring up who voted for each. 

[CPcavedweller]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

which was an additional red flag going in......because XL is exactly what Dave's O have been about.  Chunk pass plays downfield.  So it basically is the Panthers intentionally and knowingly doing bad marriages. 

which would have been okay......if they just went ahead and added some young talent behind Bryce that fit for when the obvious happened.  But they didn't. 

Or they knew Bryce wasn’t it and drafted Legette to get a core player for the next quarterback. 

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Or they knew Bryce wasn’t it and drafted Legette to get a core player for the next quarterback. 

but again, why not add more talent to the roster for when Bryce imploded.....that fit what you wanted to do.  It results in a wasted year.  You aren't developing any of the talent with that logic.  So next QB eventually comes in and Mingo, XL, Saunders and literally the entire roster of talent wasn't getting the routine development and time they should of been. 

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Or they knew Bryce wasn’t it and drafted Legette to get a core player for the next quarterback. 

I think this to a degree. DC is building a pro style offense to run. I think his philosophy was if Bryce can run it, great. If not we will find a QB who can. They aren’t going to build some gimmicky offense to prop up a QB who appears to be a weakness. Once Bryce is gone we should have some young pieces (XL, Mingo, JT, Brooks) and a good OL for the next guy. No more tearing down, just keep building from here. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

but again, why not add more talent to the roster for when Bryce imploded.....that fit what you wanted to do.  It results in a wasted year.  You aren't developing any of the talent with that logic.  So next QB eventually comes in and Mingo, XL, Saunders and literally the entire roster of talent wasn't getting the routine development and time they should of been. 

Because we have another GM that's just a sycophant for Tepper.  The only types he'll hire.

[mrcompletely11]

11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I think this to a degree. DC is building a pro style offense to run. I think his philosophy was if Bryce can run it, great. If not we will find a QB who can. They aren’t going to build some gimmicky offense to prop up a QB who appears to be a weakness. Once Bryce is gone we should have some young pieces (XL, Mingo, JT, Brooks) and a good OL for the next guy. No more tearing down, just keep building from here. 

you remember the good old days of pining for 6 wins and having a mid level offense?  I mean our bar was so fuging low and they still are managing to poo on that

[KillerKat]

Pointless in thinking of a criteria that he will never achieve since he is not an NFL QB

[heel31ok]

There is none...the result was clear before we drafted him.The question is how did the great football minds delude themselves?

Everything is happening precisely how I thought it would.

[Jay Roosevelt]

Outside of a complete and shocking bounce back I just can't imagine Bryce being the starter next year. If he was ever capable of being the guy, he's been ruined. Or maybe he never had it to begin with.

Either way, it's over. We have to start looking at other options for the future.

[UnluckyforSome]

148 out of 187 posters voted for an expected improvement. Almost 80% thought there was some way he was going to get better. This is a sad thread.