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2025 QB Draft Class


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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Moton has been playing great and is our best OL in a solid group. Depending on the numbers an extension could be a win/win. I hate to let a talented OL walk for nothing. 
I feel like the cap akways looks good 2 years out. Then we shuffle our roster and it looks rough in the immediate future. 

he has been playing fine, pff has him at 69 and that really doesnt justify 30+ million per, reworking it or extending him just eats up the cap down the road and he is getting older.  I like him but a good RT shouldnt be that hard to find in the draft, we need to keep getting younger everywhere it looks like

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/12320/geno-smith

His contract looks like a team friendly as they can pretty much cut him with little dead cap and would be saving quite a bit.  But they will be without a qb.  Lots of football left for sure but taking on an expensive 35 year old qb would be very panthery.  

They just traded for Sam Howell and now they get a nice close look at him.  I could also see their new HC wanted to draft one to develop while he keeps upgrading his defense which is his bread and butter.  I'm just throwing out ideas.  People were wanting to extend Dalton a couple games ago and he is even older.  A nice 3 year deal for a 35 year old proven QB isn't terrible.  It gives us another couple years to find one to learn behind him (I'm think the 26 class might have some good ones).  It also lets us use our early draft picks to try to inject some talent in this defense.  

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On 10/10/2024 at 11:36 AM, ForJimmy said:

Some people won’t like this, but Trey Lance is a FA who will be cheap and is only 24. Maybe sign him as a project QB behind a vet/bridge QB and see what Canales can get out of him? Just throwing out another option and we can just go BPA in the draft 

Heck, I'd give it a shot.  The dude has everything you want but the in-game experience (reps) and understanding for the game at the pro level.  The first I think has created the deficiency in the second.  If he can stay healthy had get the pro game to click between the ears, the dude could be a stud.

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On 10/21/2024 at 10:42 AM, 45catfan said:

Heck, I'd give it a shot.  The dude has everything you want but the in-game experience (reps) and understanding for the game at the pro level.  The first I think has created the deficiency in the second.  If he can stay healthy had get the pro game to click between the ears, the dude could be a stud.

Zach Wilson is another one. He struggled with the Jets but so did Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, and now Aaron Rodgers…. He has the arm talent that DC likes. 

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Cam Ward is easily QB1, IMO. I’m not sure that it makes sense for this team to take a QB with the way the roster looks, but by the same token hitting on a QB can really accelerate the rest of the roster quite well. 

 

Shedeur can sling it, but I have major concerns about his leadership and personality from some of the stuff I’ve seen, but he’s a young kid so maybe getting out from under his dad would help him in hat regard. 

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16 minutes ago, BlueBuck24 said:

Cam Ward is easily QB1, IMO. I’m not sure that it makes sense for this team to take a QB with the way the roster looks, but by the same token hitting on a QB can really accelerate the rest of the roster quite well. 

 

Shedeur can sling it, but I have major concerns about his leadership and personality from some of the stuff I’ve seen, but he’s a young kid so maybe getting out from under his dad would help him in hat regard. 

You would have a decent OL to put him behind (maybe extend BC for center if he keeps look good), a new RB in Brooks, a young group of weapons in XL, Coker, and JT to grow with him.  Our defense will still on on life support but DB coming back will help a little.  The offense isn't the worst to plug a young QB in though. 

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19 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

You would have a decent OL to put him behind (maybe extend BC for center if he keeps look good), a new RB in Brooks, a young group of weapons in XL, Coker, and JT to grow with him.  Our defense will still on on life support but DB coming back will help a little.  The offense isn't the worst to plug a young QB in though. 

I would agree with all of that. Would not be the worst thing in the world to get a high pick in 2026 with a promising QB because our defense gave up too many points, either.

Want to see him continue this run, but I’m starting to come around on the idea that Cam Ward is a Joe Burrow/Jayden Daniels kind of player that can completely change a franchise. 

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53 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I'm firmly on the Cam Ward bandwagon. He's going to be a stud in the NFL.

I like him, but I'm not getting excited until we actually draft a QB.  I was all fired up when get traded up about Stroud and @LinvilleGorge warned me not to get attached to a player before the draft. 

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On 10/22/2024 at 11:54 AM, ForJimmy said:

Zach Wilson is another one. He struggled with the Jets but so did Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, and now Aaron Rodgers…. He has the arm talent that DC likes. 

this is the #1 guy i want to sign for a clipboard role or flier as a starter. if he hits great if not, it doesnt matter. but the talent and arm are there. idk if it ever clicks but its the size/age/arm you drool over.  lance i worry more about with the system he was in is really QB friendly but again, i always thought he was a huge project. again all the tools you could ever want. add lock into that talk too, but lesser degree. fields i could see being a guy that if he keeps working is dynamite later as a passer but always a disappointment cause he was sooooooooo hyped in college/HS. 

Fields, Wilson, Lance, then Lock, in that order. get 1 minimum. hell i'd go for 2 and a rookie and let them all battle it out. if 1 of the 3 pans out, the $ of all three is still lower than a top guy gets anyways. if none do, cut bait when the contracts end in 3 years or the weakest link quickly and try again.

hate we draft meh talent other than Cam or Collins way back when.

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On 10/24/2024 at 3:53 PM, Jay Roosevelt said:

I'm firmly on the Cam Ward bandwagon. He's going to be a stud in the NFL.

I watched him play for the first time against FSU and completely agree. He’s elusive and has a cannon and he’s not 5’7”. I hope we lose the rest of our games (which should be no problem) so we can take him at 1 and finally start ending this nightmare.

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12 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

I watched him play for the first time against FSU and completely agree. He’s elusive and has a cannon and he’s not 5’7”. I hope we lose the rest of our games (which should be no problem) so we can take him at 1 and finally start ending this nightmare.

I think I would still take Shedeur first. But because his dad likely won't let him play here i might have to settle for Ward.

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41 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Can we all agree given were we might be drafting that Sanders/Ward should be the only QBs in consideration?

 

I would be much more comfortable signing Winston or Fields then reaching on any other QBs in this class tbh.

100% and I think Sanders should be considered first unless his dad shuts it down, which again I don't think will ultimately happen.

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