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24 minutes ago, csx said:

Look at the roster and who we had at each. The OLB two deep was set. The inside wasnt.

The inside depth chart needs a lot help than outside is a better way to say I suppose 

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Since I live on the edge, I will make some bold predictions.  You may know me as the guy who got the player and the team correct during my first round mock draft 8 times.  That is a 25% of perfection, baby.

Without further ado do:

Undrafted signees that will make the 53-man roster:

Willie Drew CB Virginia State.  6 foot CB who ran a 4.46 at the combine and had six picks last season.  With Horn and Jackson at starting positions and Hill and Smith Wade at Nickel, Drew and Bootle will be the reserve CBs.

Jalen Coker, WR Holy Cross.  6' 1" and 210lb WR who can play any WR position.  He had a 42.5" vertical and a 1.52 Ten yard split.  Broad jump as nearly 10' 8".  Great hands, excellent route runner (entire tree), and successful with an inferior QB.  1950 yards last 2 seasons and over 100 receptions when everyone knew he was getting the ball.  I personally think they would have drafted him but they calculated that he would become an undrafted free agent and they already had a deal on the table for him.  (my theory).  He has to beat out TMJ, Smith-Marsette, or Mingo to get the job.  I see the WR Corps:  Johnson, Legette, Thielen, Mingo, Coker, and the sixth guy (Smith-Marsette or TMJ.

Undrafted signees that could make the Practice Squad:

Andrew Raym, C Oklahoma.  Centers on the PS are two dimensional, and the Panthers need one since their current centers are talking online classes in "NFL Hiking".  Raym would be the third C in the depth at the position, and a third center allows you to run offensive reps faster at practice with three groups (assuming we get a third QB).   NFL Combine reports call him a "tough guy" with size who needs to work on some issues.  Sounds like a dawg.

Christian Duffie, OT/OG, Kansas State:  The scheme fit that best fits Duffy's strengths is a zone scheme with quick passes in an RPO/Possession, or heavy run Offense.  That sounds about right for the Canales system.   He should be a good project for the practice squad, but he is 24 years old.

Sam Pinckney, TE Coastal Carolina.  Can't beat the press man coverage, runs poor routes, slower than CBs.  However, he catches contested balls and is 6' 4", 220.  If the Panthers can add 20 pounds, he might get a look at TE by 2025.  However, he is 25 years old, so his window is going to close by next year. 

Popo Aumavae  NT,  Oregon.   At 6'3" 315, he plays with good arm extension, strong hands, and balance.  He hustles to sideline (like Brown).  He had 3 sacks his SR year--his 7th season (He will be 26 in January 2025).  I would keep Popo on the practice squad for a season or two to give depth.

 

Now look at the draft from the perspective that we added a CB and WR--two areas of need--with the undrafted free agents.  We added a second rounder for 2025.  We got a first round WR, the best RB in the draft, the second-best pass catching TE in the draft, a dawg LB, a versatile CB, a defensive lineman, and a LB.  Pretty solid draft that followed a pretty solid free agency period.

 

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9 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Since I live on the edge, I will make some bold predictions.  You may know me as the guy who got the player and the team correct during my first round mock draft 8 times.  That is a 25% of perfection, baby.

Without further ado do:

Undrafted signees that will make the 53-man roster:

Willie Drew CB Virginia State.  6 foot CB who ran a 4.46 at the combine and had six picks last season.  With Horn and Jackson at starting positions and Hill and Smith Wade at Nickel, Drew and Bootle will be the reserve CBs.

Jalen Coker, WR Holy Cross.  6' 1" and 210lb WR who can play any WR position.  He had a 42.5" vertical and a 1.52 Ten yard split.  Broad jump as nearly 10' 8".  Great hands, excellent route runner (entire tree), and successful with an inferior QB.  1950 yards last 2 seasons and over 100 receptions when everyone knew he was getting the ball.  I personally think they would have drafted him but they calculated that he would become an undrafted free agent and they already had a deal on the table for him.  (my theory).  He has to beat out TMJ, Smith-Marsette, or Mingo to get the job.  I see the WR Corps:  Johnson, Legette, Thielen, Mingo, Coker, and the sixth guy (Smith-Marsette or TMJ.

Undrafted signees that could make the Practice Squad:

Andrew Raym, C Oklahoma.  Centers on the PS are two dimensional, and the Panthers need one since their current centers are talking online classes in "NFL Hiking".  Raym would be the third C in the depth at the position, and a third center allows you to run offensive reps faster at practice with three groups (assuming we get a third QB).   NFL Combine reports call him a "tough guy" with size who needs to work on some issues.  Sounds like a dawg.

Christian Duffie, OT/OG, Kansas State:  The scheme fit that best fits Duffy's strengths is a zone scheme with quick passes in an RPO/Possession, or heavy run Offense.  That sounds about right for the Canales system.   He should be a good project for the practice squad, but he is 24 years old.

Sam Pinckney, TE Coastal Carolina.  Can't beat the press man coverage, runs poor routes, slower than CBs.  However, he catches contested balls and is 6' 4", 220.  If the Panthers can add 20 pounds, he might get a look at TE by 2025.  However, he is 25 years old, so his window is going to close by next year. 

Popo Aumavae  NT,  Oregon.   At 6'3" 315, he plays with good arm extension, strong hands, and balance.  He hustles to sideline (like Brown).  He had 3 sacks his SR year--his 7th season (He will be 26 in January 2025).  I would keep Popo on the practice squad for a season or two to give depth.

 

Now look at the draft from the perspective that we added a CB and WR--two areas of need--with the undrafted free agents.  We added a second rounder for 2025.  We got a first round WR, the best RB in the draft, the second-best pass catching TE in the draft, a dawg LB, a versatile CB, a defensive lineman, and a LB.  Pretty solid draft that followed a pretty solid free agency period.

 

I think Harrison Mevis has to be a major consideration for the 53 as well

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PFF: Ranking the best available 2024 NFL Draft prospects

 

#6. HB JADEN SHIRDEN, MONMOUTH

Shirden is a high-speed processor with quick feet and good burst to be a potential speed back in a rotation behind zone-blocking schemes.

#7. WR JALEN COKER, HOLY CROSS

Coker will have to overcome his limited athleticism, but he is a smart and versatile route runner with reliable hands. He should be a draft-and-develop WR4/5.

#44. K HARRISON MEVIS, MISSOURI

Mevis has an NFL-caliber leg and missed just one field goal from inside 40 yards in 2023. He was less consistent from further out, but there's enough there for him to get a shot at winning a job in training camp.

#50. ED ZION TUPUOLA-FETUI, WASHINGTON  (Unconfirmed) 

Tupuola-Fetui is an experienced, high-energy, 3-4 outside linebacker who can make a name for himself as a special teamer, but he must get stronger to become a rotational player on an NFL defense.

#57. QB JACK PLUMMER, LOUISVILLE

Plummer has some of the best touch throws in the class, but when asked to fire up the arm strength to an NFL level, he leaves you wanting more. He projects as a practice squad or depth quarterback at the NFL level.

#63. C ANDREW RAYM, OKLAHOMA

Raym was solid in pass protection in 2023, earning a 70.3 PFF pass-blocking grade. He struggled to make an impact as a run-blocker though, with his grade in that regard coming out to just 60.2.

#87. S DEMANI RICHARDSON, TEXAS A&M

Richardson was a solid run defender throughout his college career, but he struggled in coverage in 2023, earning a 62.6 coverage grade. His tackling ability will give him the chance to stick on special teams somewhere.

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