How short a leash will Young be on?

[Bear Hands]

I'd say one of those relatively short ~5-6' ones with some buoyancy in the thread so he doesn't hurt his neck.  

[Navy_football]

38 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I was going to say 2020 Teddy numbers as the floor, since that wasn't good enough for Tepper/Rhule/whoever decided to go on that fuging qb carousel. If TB played all 17 games it would have been right about what you listed. 7.6 yards per attempt, up from BY's season 1 5.5. 

Yeah...

Teddy had real weapons when he was in Carolina. DJ, Robbie and Curtis Samuel are legit weapons. Throw in CMC as a receiving back and that was an obvious underperformance.

[Jackie Lee]

2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Yeah...

Teddy had real weapons when he was in Carolina. DJ, Robbie and Curtis Samuel are legit weapons. Throw in CMC as a receiving back and that was an obvious underperformance.

Right, D Johnson, Thielen, and XL/WR3 with new guards and TE should be close to a wash. Add in BY being the #1 overall draft pick, better than Teddy in 2020 shouldn't be too much to ask for.  

[pantherj]

He has until we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs next season. After that point all bets are off. 

[mrcompletely11]

Godalmighty

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/5/2/24146760/questions-after-2024-nfl-draft-dallas-cowboys-miami-dolphins-cj-stroud-jordan-love-aaron-rodgers

 

 

The problems begin with Young. The Charlotte restaurateur who clowned Tepper is right. It certainly seems like Tepper was behind the decision to trade up to no. 1 in 2023, then use that pick on Young to be the franchise’s savior. By all measures, Young so far has fallen well short of the mark. Seventy-two different quarterbacks have had 200-plus dropbacks in their rookie seasons since the 2000 season; Young’s 2023 campaign ranks dead last among them in EPA per dropback in obvious passing situations (second, third, and fourth downs of 7-plus yards). Tepper’s hiring and firing decisions and drink-tossing are embarrassing, but missing on Young will set the team back if the QB doesn’t flip the script in 2024. Per FanDuel’s win total projections, the Panthers are tied for the lowest implied market probability to clear 5.5 wins of any team in the league. Stop laughing! It’s not funny!

[travisura]

18 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Godalmighty

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/5/2/24146760/questions-after-2024-nfl-draft-dallas-cowboys-miami-dolphins-cj-stroud-jordan-love-aaron-rodgers

 

 

The problems begin with Young. The Charlotte restaurateur who clowned Tepper is right. It certainly seems like Tepper was behind the decision to trade up to no. 1 in 2023, then use that pick on Young to be the franchise’s savior. By all measures, Young so far has fallen well short of the mark. Seventy-two different quarterbacks have had 200-plus dropbacks in their rookie seasons since the 2000 season; Young’s 2023 campaign ranks dead last among them in EPA per dropback in obvious passing situations (second, third, and fourth downs of 7-plus yards). Tepper’s hiring and firing decisions and drink-tossing are embarrassing, but missing on Young will set the team back if the QB doesn’t flip the script in 2024. Per FanDuel’s win total projections, the Panthers are tied for the lowest implied market probability to clear 5.5 wins of any team in the league. Stop laughing! It’s not funny!

None of this is new info. Seems like you're just wallowing in misery just to say you're miserable tbh.

[fanpanther]

15 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Yeah...

Teddy had real weapons when he was in Carolina. DJ, Robbie and Curtis Samuel are legit weapons. Throw in CMC as a receiving back and that was an obvious underperformance.

I thought so when he was here but Robbie left and did nothing and Curtis Samuel was horrible when he left also.  I thought Samuel would be a probowler with a good qb.  

[CRA]

1 hour ago, fanpanther said:

I thought so when he was here but Robbie left and did nothing and Curtis Samuel was horrible when he left also.  I thought Samuel would be a probowler with a good qb.  

yep, and Teddy didn't have CMC, he had Mike Davis. 

Reality is, Mike Davis, Teddy Bridgwater, Robbie Anderson, Curtis Samuel all had career years in Joe Brady's work in progress O.  None ever to really be talked about again in a positive light.  But Joe Brady was labeled the problem.  Not Matt Rhule lol. 

Maybe they simply should of stayed away from Sam Darnold.  Hell, I think Joe Brady actually would do well with Bryce Young.  Better than Frank.  Probably better than this current group.  Joe Brady has shown he gets the basics of a check down QB.  Just needed to figure out the redzone.  And Brady looked pretty good last year helping the Bills turn it around. 

[fanpanther]

On 5/2/2024 at 2:28 PM, CRA said:

yep, and Teddy didn't have CMC, he had Mike Davis. 

Reality is, Mike Davis, Teddy Bridgwater, Robbie Anderson, Curtis Samuel all had career years in Joe Brady's work in progress O.  None ever to really be talked about again in a positive light.  But Joe Brady was labeled the problem.  Not Matt Rhule lol. 

Maybe they simply should of stayed away from Sam Darnold.  Hell, I think Joe Brady actually would do well with Bryce Young.  Better than Frank.  Probably better than this current group.  Joe Brady has shown he gets the basics of a check down QB.  Just needed to figure out the redzone.  And Brady looked pretty good last year helping the Bills turn it around. 

You bring up a good point with youngs very weak arm brady may bring out the best in him with the check down offense.

[The Lobo]

On 5/2/2024 at 7:14 AM, mrcompletely11 said:

Godalmighty

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/5/2/24146760/questions-after-2024-nfl-draft-dallas-cowboys-miami-dolphins-cj-stroud-jordan-love-aaron-rodgers

 

 

The problems begin with Young. The Charlotte restaurateur who clowned Tepper is right. It certainly seems like Tepper was behind the decision to trade up to no. 1 in 2023, then use that pick on Young to be the franchise’s savior. By all measures, Young so far has fallen well short of the mark. Seventy-two different quarterbacks have had 200-plus dropbacks in their rookie seasons since the 2000 season; Young’s 2023 campaign ranks dead last among them in EPA per dropback in obvious passing situations (second, third, and fourth downs of 7-plus yards). Tepper’s hiring and firing decisions and drink-tossing are embarrassing, but missing on Young will set the team back if the QB doesn’t flip the script in 2024. Per FanDuel’s win total projections, the Panthers are tied for the lowest implied market probability to clear 5.5 wins of any team in the league. Stop laughing! It’s not funny!

Good lord they just pooed all over us