How short a leash will Young be on?

[45catfan]

39 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He's not wrong about the scouts.  Largely the same group of people.

[kungfoodude]

I honestly think it might be two more seasons. To me, Tepper is convinced that he is the guy and he is going to be stubborn about it. I know that sounds strange given how quickly he sours on coaches but consider that he almost always sticks with a GM at least a year longer than he should. Even after it is EXTREMELY obvious they need to be replaced. That's what I predict will happen with Young. He will get almost all of 2025, as well.

[ForJimmy]

20 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

He's not wrong about the scouts.  Largely the same group of people.

So are the scouts or Tepper making these decisions? I’m trying to keep track over here.. 

[Jon Snow]

21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I honestly think it might be two more seasons. To me, Tepper is convinced that he is the guy and he is going to be stubborn about it. I know that sounds strange given how quickly he sours on coaches but consider that he almost always sticks with a GM at least a year longer than he should. Even after it is EXTREMELY obvious they need to be replaced. That's what I predict will happen with Young. He will get almost all of 2025, as well.

I think he will get all the time he needs to prove he is or is not going to be the future. His contract allows for that. The deciding factor will be how much will the team need to see before that decision is made. Another words, when is enough, enough for Dave and Dan? This we shall see.

[carpanfan96]

He’s not really gonna get a chance to ball out, they are going to protect the hell out of him this season and look like a 1990’s offense with running the ball 35-40 times a game and asking him to make 15 passes mostly off play action. 

[DanteNoHall]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

So are the scouts or Tepper making these decisions? I’m trying to keep track over here.. 

Don't be naive Tepper is taking each player from each round the past 5 years? lmfao ok bro

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

So are the scouts or Tepper making these decisions? I’m trying to keep track over here.. 

Scouts scout, they don't make the picks.  However, they give the front office their info. Best I can tell, they are told to look for amazing athletes and not worry so much about those pesky production numbers.  Based off that, the board is collective built and then the coach and GM make a selection...with Tepper's blessing (for the top picks). 

[CPF4LIFE]

47 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

He’s not really gonna get a chance to ball out, they are going to protect the hell out of him this season and look like a 1990’s offense with running the ball 35-40 times a game and asking him to make 15 passes mostly off play action. 

This is what I'm thinking.

[CPF4LIFE]

13 hours ago, lightsout said:

I swear to God if we coach up Jack Plummer and have him sharp and he shows out, this board will fuging burn the second Bryce has a bad game lol

 

[OldhamA]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I honestly think it might be two more seasons. To me, Tepper is convinced that he is the guy and he is going to be stubborn about it. I know that sounds strange given how quickly he sours on coaches but consider that he almost always sticks with a GM at least a year longer than he should. Even after it is EXTREMELY obvious they need to be replaced. That's what I predict will happen with Young. He will get almost all of 2025, as well.

He was historically bad last season and all we've done is double down on him this offseason - so I don't doubt your reasoning 

[carpanfan96]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I honestly think it might be two more seasons. To me, Tepper is convinced that he is the guy and he is going to be stubborn about it. I know that sounds strange given how quickly he sours on coaches but consider that he almost always sticks with a GM at least a year longer than he should. Even after it is EXTREMELY obvious they need to be replaced. That's what I predict will happen with Young. He will get almost all of 2025, as well.

Then why are they building an offense that nearly hides him? Heavy run with play action. Means he won’t be throwing a lot and the throws he does make will be easier ones and he won’t have to go through progressions as much. 

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Then why are they building an offense that nearly hides him? Heavy run with play action. Means he won’t be throwing a lot and the throws he does make will be easier ones and he won’t have to go through progressions as much. 

I don't think this is hiding him at all. If anything it will expose him. Every qb in the league needs help. They are providing him with the same amount of talent that most good teams in the league have. If he cannot perform in a normal environment like that then he is exposed. How is that hiding him?

[carpanfan96]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I don't think this is hiding him at all. If anything it will expose him. Every qb in the league needs help. They are providing him with the same amount of talent that most good teams in the league have. If he cannot perform in a normal environment like that then he is exposed. How is that hiding him?

This team is being set up to run 35-40 times a game. Passing when not off play action will be quick half field reads as much as possible. Most of the game he’s going to be handing the ball off and making one/two read progressions off play action. 
 

that’s what I meant by hiding him. They’ve already said they will need all three rb’s and all will see the field. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

This team is being set up to run 35-40 times a game. Passing when not off play action will be quick half field reads as much as possible. Most of the game he’s going to be handing the ball off and making one/two read progressions off play action. 
 

that’s what I meant by hiding him. They’ve already said they will need all three rb’s and all will see the field. 

You don't know that. They have brought in too many pass catchers to run the ball that much. It will be as close to a 50/50 split as possible.  The opponents will have more to do with it than them trying to hide Young. If you haven't noticed the run game was complete ass. You have to be able to run the ball at will to consistently win in this league.