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Brad Idzik settles into his new OC role as players return 


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5 minutes ago, RJK said:

I’ve never seen a bottom third offensive staff glazed so hard but expectations have never been lower for this franchise 

we had folks claiming Rhule/McAdoo going into 3 year was about to be something special......it is what it is.  They could hire me and you and a segment of the board would start to believe we might be hidden geniuses. 

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1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

The new Bryce excuse

Bryce just needs an actual modern day NFL OC.  Not all these dudes that have never done the job before.   

Which, I mean, might not really be that much of an excuse but rather the painfully obvious. 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

Bryce just needs an actual modern day NFL OC.  Not all these dudes that have never done the job before.   

Which, I mean, might not really be that much of an excuse but rather the painfully obvious. 

Pretty sure Canales is running the offense.   I see you're already working the excuse, give Bryce a chance

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12 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Pretty sure Canales is running the offense.   I see you're already working the excuse, give Bryce a chance

I mean, Canales is a first year HC with a grand total of 1 year as OC under his belt running a bottom tier O.  Just doing the HC job is enough on his plate.  Will he call plays? Sure.  Input? Sure.  I mean, we just did that identical whole dance last year with a vet HC. 

I mean, Bryce Young is on his 2nd OC and both his OCs were rookies that had never been OC.  That's not really an excuse.  It's just pointing out the Panthers are doing everything on paper you would say a team shouldn't do for someone like Bryce......but since it's our team we argue it as okay. 

I can say that and it not be an excuse for Bryce.  I don't think Bryce has the tools to be a good NFL QB.  But the Panthers IMO are not doing the right things to make him be able to reach whatever ceiling he does have IMO. 

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We brought the HC in because he is excellent with QBs. Please no more knee jerk coaching scapegoats unless the OL can’t handle a stunt.

11 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

He just said Bryces arm talent is "Phenomenal"..and he makes "great, professional throws all over the field" lol. I see why they didn't trot this guy out there last week

 I mean, you know, they also saw on tape all the reasons he was selected where he was or whatever that bullshit was. Every decent play he made last year fits on a floppy disk. About two minutes worth. 

What are they supposed to say? They have to do that. I thought it was pretty faint praise on an enthusiasm level, but that could be my lack of it clouding things.. 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

We brought the HC in because he is excellent with QBs. Please no more knee jerk coaching scapegoats unless the OL can’t handle a stunt.

 I mean, you know, they also saw on tape all the reasons he was selected where he was or whatever that bullshit was. Every decent play he made last year fits on a floppy disk. About two minutes worth. 

What are they supposed to say? They have to do that. I thought it was pretty faint praise on an enthusiasm level, but that could be my lack of it clouding things.. 

I think dudes just a Bryce hater at this point.

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