Hurney on WFNZ @ 4:00 today

[mountainpantherfan]

I didn't get to hear the spot in real time but from listening to the pod casts I thought something was very interesting.

Hurney was quick to dismiss the need of Boldin and explained that they didn't feel that Boldin would be a good fit here. On the Brandon Marshall question, exact opposite. We have a plan, looking a WR, ect.

I would not be surprised at all if Brandon Marshall does end up in Charlotte IF the trading price comes down. Right now, I've heard the Broncos are looking for at least a 2nd. If that goes down to a 3rd and no one else jumps, I could see the Panthers making that trade.

People sometimes forget that its not always about the player but what you are giving up to get that player. Wait long enough and you might miss out but sometimes you might get a deal.

[bleys]

I didn't get to hear the spot in real time but from listening to the pod casts I thought something was very interesting.

Hurney was quick to dismiss the need of Boldin and explained that they didn't feel that Boldin would be a good fit here. On the Brandon Marshall question, exact opposite. We have a plan, looking a WR, ect.

I would not be surprised at all if Brandon Marshall does end up in Charlotte IF the trading price comes down. Right now, I've heard the Broncos are looking for at least a 2nd. If that goes down to a 3rd and no one else jumps, I could see the Panthers making that trade.

People sometimes forget that its not always about the player but what you are giving up to get that player. Wait long enough and you might miss out but sometimes you might get a deal.

if we gave up a 2nd for Brandon Marshall instead of drafting a questionable WR this year in the draft.. I would not be mad at all. Matter of fact, it seems to make a lot more football and business sense..

However, he also said the Panthers have not spoken at all with the Bronco's about anything.. we can take it for what it's worth or figure it's a smoke screen. In this case, I'd have to think maybe they haven't spoken with the Bronc's at all.. judging by how adamant he was...

[Udogg]

The questions to me isn't marshall. It's signing marshall to a long term. With the way he acted with the broncos to get a new contract, our new fiscal responsibility program, Steve Smith, the looming signing of D-will/Stew/TD/etc... I just can't see us wasting a high pick for him. I think the FO would rather try to roll the dice on the 2nd pick rather than "rent" Marshall for 1 year.

[unicar15]

The questions to me isn't marshall. It's signing marshall to a long term. With the way he acted with the broncos to get a new contract, our new fiscal responsibility program, Steve Smith, the looming signing of D-will/Stew/TD/etc... I just can't see us wasting a high pick for him. I think the FO would rather try to roll the dice on the 2nd pick rather than "rent" Marshall for 1 year.

We just released over 20 million dollars of potential signings with just TWO of our players (Delhomme and Peppers). We probably have the most money in the league to spend. Signing those guys and Marshall would not be a problem at all. He is arguably the best young receiver in the NFL. If they wanted our 2nd round pick for him I'd make the deal and have Hurney fly his ass out there to pick him up.

Steve Smith, Deangelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Brandon Marshall, our offensive line, and a competent QB...are you kidding me? We'd instantly be one of the favorites for the NFC South if we added Brandon Marshall. Our team would be virtually "uncoverable." If you back off to leave DBs in the back to cover Marshall over the top...we pound it down your throat. If you bring them in to stop the run...we go over your head. If you blitz us to try and pressure Moore then we dump it off to DWill, Stew, or Steve Smith underneath. Can you imagine having Smith running routes UNDER coverage as opposed to downfield all the time? Wow...

Marshall and Smith > Fitz and Boldin > Moss and Welker > Jackson and Maclin. We would instantly have the best WR corp AND the best running back tandem in the league.

[PantherBrew]

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[KatsAzz]

I have to hand it to Marty Hurney listening to and responding to some of the lamebrain callers.

Some callers had very good questions but others were really way out!

[mountainpantherfan]

if we gave up a 2nd for Brandon Marshall instead of drafting a questionable WR this year in the draft.. I would not be mad at all. Matter of fact, it seems to make a lot more football and business sense..

However, he also said the Panthers have not spoken at all with the Bronco's about anything.. we can take it for what it's worth or figure it's a smoke screen. In this case, I'd have to think maybe they haven't spoken with the Bronc's at all.. judging by how adamant he was...

I don't doubt him that they haven't contacted the Broncos. It would be stupid on their part if they did already. That's my point. He never said that Marshall could not become an option. If he isn't traded by a week before the draft or even after the draft, then I could see the Panthers exploring a move then.

As for the money part, based on what we have seen the Panthers don't have a problem signing young players, which Marshall is, to larger contracts. It's the older players with big contracts they are staying away from or cutting.

I'm not saying it's going to happen just that Hurney is a GM and when you read between the lines he never really said that Marshall never could become an option.

[bleys]

I see what you mean.. we'll see.

[OneBadassCat]

We would be unstoppable with Brandon Marshall. But he would need a head adjustment to play for us.

[C47]

If Hurney expected a live show on WFNZ to be a remotely positive thing, I'd say he's totally clueless.

Every year the Panther's have had a losing season (every other year that is), there has been an excuse. Smitty got hurt, Jake had surgery, RBs got hurt....

Last year we ended up at .500 (would have been 7-9 had the Saints not rested their starters on week 17). What was the excuse? There was none.

And when you don't have an excuse, people will find reasons for behavior they don't like on their own.

Arguably it all started in the off-season. Ridiculous contract to Jake and Peppers. ZERO free agency moves worthy of note. Stupid draft day decisions (trading 1st rounds for 2nds).

The when the season got going, we had Lackluster D play, and the softness on Delhomme's breakdown... these are all coaching/front office decisions.... and we can squarely put the outcome of 2009 at Hurney and Fox's feet.

All the while they gave us lip service that "it is what it is".

So if he's getting beat up... good. He needs to hear what people are thinking. Because his and Fox's PR programming isn't working. He needs to learn to be straight up with us.

Wow that is perhaps the most asinine statement I have read on here in awhile. First of all you cant play the what if card. Guess what when anyone looks at the scores for the 2009 season the Panthers will have a W beside their name for week 17, who knows how the game would have turned out. While we are playing the what if game, what if Drew Brees did start that game and Peppers or Brown sacked him and snapped his leg like a twig......ZOMGZ the Saints wouldn't have won the SB then, but guess what they did. As for saying we don't have an excuse are you blind and deaf or were you just living under a rock for the first 12 games of the season. I would say this guy named Delhomme turning the ball over every 17 pass attempts is a pretty big reason why we finished .500.

[blackcatgrowl]

As for saying we don't have an excuse are you blind and deaf or were you just living under a rock for the first 12 games of the season. I would say this guy named Delhomme turning the ball over every 17 pass attempts is a pretty big reason why we finished .500.

Hey tool... did you read the rest of my post?

The when the season got going, we had Lackluster D play, and the softness on Delhomme's breakdown... these are all coaching/front office decisions....

Game 7. Buffalo Bills. We're 2-3, and really need a win to keep in the mix. Jake coughs up Three Interceptions.

Afterwards we were told "It is what it is". And Foxy says Jake will start "Because I think he gives us the best chance to win".

No... at that point... no... there was no god damn excuse for keeping 17 the starter for FIVE more games.

Jake went on to throw 3TDs and 4 INT and we dropped to 4-7, seriously damaging our play-off contention.

Now... I'm not playing "what ifs" here. Delhomme did NOT give us the best chance to win. He wasn't hurt. He just simply lost his edge. The COACHES and Front office should have pulled him after Buffalo, but they were more concerned about their buddy Jake, than winning.

[C47]

Your words were there was no excuse they could use for being .500. Saying that they went .500 because of the FO decision to keep Jake the starter is just that, an excuse. Once again, most asinine thing I have read on here in awhile.

[twylyght]

hurney ur a freakin idiot you should have gotten Larry Fitzgerald and all our problems would be solved

YOURE SUCH AN IDIOT HURNEY OMGGGGGGGGgggggggggg

I love how people criticize him when he's arguably one of the best drafters in the league.

The Delhomme deal was dumb, but it was done because Peppers deal tied up the cap space, and we would have been screwed cap-wise had we needed to sign new players(which we definitely ended up doing)

This.... strange how the facts are lost when people are bent on making a point

[blackcatgrowl]

Your words were there was no excuse they could use for being .500. Saying that they went .500 because of the FO decision to keep Jake the starter is just that' date=' an excuse. Once again, most asinine thing I have read on here in awhile.[/quote']

Good lord...

I was talking about excuses the FO have had in the past to not take the blame for bad seasons.

They have to take the blame now. Re-read my post, seriously...