Tebow's pre-Wonderlic prayer request falls flat

[faultlessjoint]

Raptor Jesus says: "shut the fug up, lulz."

[CharlotteBeer.com]

"Scholars have often considered the possibility that Buddhism influenced the early development of Christianity. They have drawn attention to many parallels concerning the births, lives, doctrines, and deaths of the Buddha and Jesus" [40].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_Christianity

There's some good info there that covers some basic similarities.

It's just silly to say they have nothing in common.

Joseph Campbell has written extensively on the similarities between these two religions, as well as the commonalities of all religions and mythologies (because, you know, one man's religion is another man's mythology).

[The Saltman]

Blasphemy

[jpniner]

Besides the Bible. Um no there is not a massive amount. Please list them.

Roman History for starters.

There is actually alot more evidence, historically recorded of Jesus existence than there is of Julius Caesar. How do you know Caesar actually existed using your logic?

[Cat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_Christianity

There's some good info there that covers some basic similarities.

It's just silly to say they have nothing in common.

Joseph Campbell has written extensively on the similarities between these two religions, as well as the commonalities of all religions and mythologies (because, you know, one man's religion is another man's mythology).

Yes I agree with that. But they are completely different. Does buddha claim to be god? do i have to ask for forgiveness of sins? are blood sacrifices necessary? do i have to believe in buddha to be saved? do i need to be saved in the first place? do u have to worship buddha?

one is a religion one is a philosophy.

[PhillyB]

As I recall, written records of him outside of biblical works are sparse.

Not exactly massive.

josephus, jewish author of the antiquities and collaborator with the romans

tacitus, one of the most important roman historians, discussed jesus and the rise of christianity

pliny the younger wrote about jesus in sever letters to an emperor he befriended

Thallus, via julius africanus, wrote a history of the mediterranean world since the trojan war

and then of course the new testament itself. compared with the standards of other ancient religions, the new testament accounts of jesus' life and works came about almost immediately:

1) the Gathas of Zoroaster are from 1000 BC but not put into writing in the 3rd century AD

2) Buddha lived in the 6th century BC, and no writings came about until the first century AD

3) a biography of Muhammed was not written until 767, over a century after his death

Contrariwise, we can determine from outside corroborating sources alone that:

* Jesus was a Jewish teacher

* many people believed he performed healings, miracles, etc.

* some people believed he was the messiah as prophecized in the OT

* he was rejected by Jewish leaders

* he was crucified under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius

* in spite of this shameful death, his followers believed he was still alive and spread beyond palestine, so many that there were multitudes of them in rome by AD64

* all kinds of roman citizens - men, woman, slaves and freemen, worshiped him as God

that is a hell of a lot of corroborating sources. i daresay if we held up any other historical figure from jesus' time period, we'd have a significantly more difficult time proving his existence from other sources.

[YourMomsLover]

I worship milfs from all over the world. Especially Philly B's mom

[Cat]

Roman History for starters.

There is actually alot more evidence, historically recorded of Jesus existence than there is of Julius Caesar. How do you know Caesar actually existed using your logic?

I don't.

I've read apologetic books that state the argument you're making. Fact check them. Most (not all) of there information to back up those claims are bogus or outdated sources.

If someone told me i had to worship Caesar and build my life around him. i'd be more concerned about if he existed or not.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Yes I agree with that. But they are completely different. Does buddha claim to be god? do i have to ask for forgiveness of sins? are blood sacrifices necessary? do i have to believe in buddha to be saved? do i need to be saved in the first place? do u have to worship buddha?

one is a religion one is a philosophy.

If you agree with that, then they're not completely different. Ask a Buddhist if they consider it a religion or a philosophy.

Of course they're not exactly alike -- but they share much in common, just as many religions have taken on other qualities from other religions.

I just find it hilarious that some of you guys are so quick to judge Christianity, but not other religions -- oh, that's right, you consider them philosophies. It's all good then.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

josephus, jewish author of the antiquities and collaborator with the romans

tacitus, one of the most important roman historians, discussed jesus and the rise of christianity

pliny the younger wrote about jesus in sever letters to an emperor he befriended

Thallus, via julius africanus, wrote a history of the mediterranean world since the trojan war

and then of course the new testament itself. compared with the standards of other ancient religions, the new testament accounts of jesus' life and works came about almost immediately:

1) the Gathas of Zoroaster are from 1000 BC but not put into writing in the 3rd century AD

2) Buddha lived in the 6th century BC, and no writings came about until the first century AD

3) a biography of Muhammed was not written until 767, over a century after his death

Contrariwise, we can determine from outside corroborating sources alone that:

* Jesus was a Jewish teacher

* many people believed he performed healings, miracles, etc.

* some people believed he was the messiah as prophecized in the OT

* he was rejected by Jewish leaders

* he was crucified under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius

* in spite of this shameful death, his followers believed he was still alive and spread beyond palestine, so many that there were multitudes of them in rome by AD64

* all kinds of roman citizens - men, woman, slaves and freemen, worshiped him as God

that is a hell of a lot of corroborating sources. i daresay if we held up any other historical figure from jesus' time period, we'd have a significantly more difficult time proving his existence from other sources.

Thank you for actually throwing out some facts, instead of just taking your friend's professor's word for it.

Pliny the Younger isn't exactly an unreliable source. All this talk of Pliny the Younger is making me thirsty.

[MCCNASTY]

I worship beer, steak, red bull and vodka, hot chicks and football. I damn sure know they exist.

[Cat]

josephus, jewish author of the antiquities and collaborator with the romans

tacitus, one of the most important roman historians, discussed jesus and the rise of christianity

pliny the younger wrote about jesus in sever letters to an emperor he befriended

Thallus, via julius africanus, wrote a history of the mediterranean world since the trojan war

and then of course the new testament itself. compared with the standards of other ancient religions, the new testament accounts of jesus' life and works came about almost immediately:

1) the Gathas of Zoroaster are from 1000 BC but not put into writing in the 3rd century AD

2) Buddha lived in the 6th century BC, and no writings came about until the first century AD

3) a biography of Muhammed was not written until 767, over a century after his death

Contrariwise, we can determine from outside corroborating sources alone that:

* Jesus was a Jewish teacher

* many people believed he performed healings, miracles, etc.

* some people believed he was the messiah as prophecized in the OT

* he was rejected by Jewish leaders

* he was crucified under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius

* in spite of this shameful death, his followers believed he was still alive and spread beyond palestine, so many that there were multitudes of them in rome by AD64

* all kinds of roman citizens - men, woman, slaves and freemen, worshiped him as God

that is a hell of a lot of corroborating sources. i daresay if we held up any other historical figure from jesus' time period, we'd have a significantly more difficult time proving his existence from other sources.

WOW that is a MASSIVE list! lol

btw Josephus' writings were altered at a later date to include Jesus.

[Darth Biscuit]

:lurk5:

This thing's really getting good now.

[Zcustom]

The debate over historical figures existence is irrelevant imo.

The issues that got this debate going stem from Organized Religion, which has been problematic for centuries.

Organized Religion= Mind control for the masses, it's that simple. It's what tells you to repent or go to hell, to tithe 10% of your income or be shamed, and to do what you are told.

All of this is based on a book written at a time when a tiny portion of the population could actually read and write, scribes were very few and far between and controlled what made it into books and records.

Imagine if today the only outlet reporting news was either Fox news or MSNBC, pretty scary huh?

The truth exists somewhere in the middle, like always, but to assume that any organized religion has YOUR best interests at heart is laughable.

Organized religion is what leads The Golden Calf of Bristol to believe it's a good idea to put bible verses on his eye black, what tells the evangelical southern baptist that he needs to show you the way to salvation or you'll burn in hell. THIS is the problem, not Jesus'/Buddha's existence or teachings. Those are the things worth following.