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Tebow's pre-Wonderlic prayer request falls flat

scpanther22

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There are two things that trouble me about Christianity:

1.) Hell. http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector#p/u/21/H0wSjJAsrAk

2.) The behavior of God in the Old Testimate. http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector#p/u/17/ZmhFniUTQIE

As for hell, the punishment doesn't fit the crime, so to speak. What could anyone do to deserve to be burned in a lake of fire for all eternity?

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Yes he is. With how he complain, cussing, & telling people to kiss his wide load ass like an immature child. No thanks, SLJ. Don't want you to fart a nasty one from the chili cheese burrito you ate last night. :eek:

And you don't tell me to shut the f**k up, 'cause you need to big time with bashing religious people while acting like one with trying to force everyone to think like you. Again, you got a lot of problem there. So sad you're full of it too. :P :p

LOL at you making yourself look like a bigger idiot than I could...

Instead of debate the issue at hand, you continue to focus on me and my beliefs...

Again, shut the fug up... or... cry more plz...

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There are two things that trouble me about Christianity:

1.) Hell. http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector#p/u/21/H0wSjJAsrAk

2.) The behavior of God in the Old Testimate. http://www.youtube.com/user/NonStampCollector#p/u/17/ZmhFniUTQIE

As for hell, the punishment doesn't fit the crime, so to speak. What could anyone do to deserve to be burned in a lake of fire for all eternity?

Hell is the impossibility of reason...

Hell was also never really mentioned in the Bible until the New Testament, and the majority of it's mentioning came from Jesus himself, a man nobody can still prove even existed... and even then, were mistranslations of the word "Gehenna," which means "punishment," and actually refer to a real life worldly place in Jerusalem...

Plato (irony?) wrote about a place where souls were sent after death, Tartaros, for punishment... and this is 400 years before Jesus even supposedly existed...

The ancient Egyptians also talked about punishment for the wicked after death... even a place of fire... and we're talking thousands of years before Christianity, Judaism, or Islam were even really a twinkle in someone's eye...

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Good luck with living with yourself for the rest of your life.

Your ego is apparently more important than your desire for truth

WTF are you talking about?

That quote is from a movie, and pretty much means that lack of reasoning is hell on Earth... If I had to say it, I'd say that most religious folks already put themselves through hell in that sense in that they lack the reasoning to come to grips with that which cannot be reasoned with... our existence...

I can live with myself just fine... I don't worry about an imaginary place where "bad people" are sent as punishment because I know it is just a boogeyman tactic to keep the people in order... Why would an omnipotent creator have the need for such a place to even exist while he knowingly creates us with the foreknowledge that we'll be bad people? Don't give me the "free will" copout either, because what would be the point? Are we all experiments for this being's amusement? lol...

Sure, there may be a creative force at work in the universe... Sure, there may not... The point of my entire argument is that making it all into miraculous parables that people can understand is defeating to the cause as a whole... Some people just have the desire to rationalize irrational things...

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...and as I said, while I may be one of the only ones continuing the debate, and not that I care about rep at all, here is further proof that I don't speak just for myself...

The one neg rep came from someone who didn't even remain in the thread... probably out of lack of ability to provide a valid argument...

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If I had to say it, I'd say that most religious folks already put themselves through hell in that sense in that they lack the reasoning to come to grips with that which cannot be reasoned with... our existence...

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Sure, there may be a creative force at work in the universe... Sure, there may not... The point of my entire argument is that making it all into miraculous parables that people can understand is defeating to the cause as a whole... Some people just have the desire to rationalize irrational things...

You do realize that you're also rationalizing the same irrational things, right? You're just rationalizing it in a different way.

Oh Samuel L. Jackson, I'll say a prayer for you.

(I'm kidding, of course. ;) )

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I don't make up stories to explain meteorites, an eclipse, an earthquake, or other natural phenomena though...

As to where we came from... I don't fuging have a clue, and neither does anyone else really... But I don't buy into the whole Genesis theory either...

If I had to guess, I'd be willing to bet we were seeded here by aliens or something like that, and that nothing out there gives a real damn about our overall existence, other than wanting/needing us to survive for some unknown reason... But, that's borderline Scientology, and I don't wanna get caught up with those bloodsuckers either...

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