Y’all are overreacting

[WUnderhill]

10 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

We didn't even sell anyone besides Burns, just let a bunch of dudes walk instead of at least trying to get some kinda of compensation for them. Usually teams try to accrue as much draft capital as possible even if it's 7ths or conditional picks. Morgan seems like he gave up before even trying on most these guys. And then I don't think you shell out $20M a year to a guard with hamstring issues if you're doing a true rebuild. 

The reason they were cut and not traded is because they weren’t worth what they were making. Why would a team trade a 7th round pick to take on a bad contract like Bozeman’s? I’m not sure I understand why you would think Morgan would cut guys if he could trade them instead.

[BIGH2001]

This thread was probably started by someone who told us not to worry about the 2023 preseason either. 
 

[Byrdman4real]

26 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

The moves so far are fine, its the incoming trade and overpay for Higgins that is going to be the problem....

This

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Von Bell, Bozeman, Hayden Hurst, all were under contract

No one is trading for any of those players. 

[Tarheel119]

Luvu is the only guy I hate losing. The rest I am okay with. This was not something that was going to be a quick turnaround. I’m not going to judge until the end of the offseason. Realistically, I can’t judge until 2-3 years down the road.

[Navy_football]

2 hours ago, Tarheel119 said:

Luvu is the only guy I hate losing. The rest I am okay with. This was not something that was going to be a quick turnaround. I’m not going to judge until the end of the offseason. Realistically, I can’t judge until 2-3 years down the road.

Agree. But if they replace him with Queen, then I'm not too mad about that anymore. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

3 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

We didn't even sell anyone besides Burns, just let a bunch of dudes walk instead of at least trying to get some kinda of compensation for them. Usually teams try to accrue as much draft capital as possible even if it's 7ths or conditional picks. Morgan seems like he gave up before even trying on most these guys. And then I don't think you shell out $20M a year to a guard with hamstring issues if you're doing a true rebuild. 

So you are saying we should have given them contracts and then traded them away to accrue dead cap?... Contracts that outside of Luvu, I wouldn't want our front office to offer...

[Catsndacradle]

8 hours ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

not overreacting, this is the BS pretty much every panthers called out when the bad decisions and moves were being made. except even worse than worst case scenarios

We are paying, what we are paying, and getting the returns of trades because of the position we were put in 4 years ago.

[MechaZain]

The return on Burns sucks but going all in on the o-line makes sense to me. If that group's finally strong then next season is our definitive look at what Young is capable of. If he continues to struggle then we've already rolled out of the red carpet for his replacement. 

The defense has been thoroughly gutted though and that worries me. 

[CarolinaWillRise]

8 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

 

Honestly, this is what should have happened 4 years ago. Sell everyone and just start over. You have Ron Fat Fhule and Frank hold overs and y’all weren’t winning. Gut this thing and completely rebuild like the 95 Panthers. 
 

 

Yep burn it down, I just now saw they moved Burns... I was busy betting on everything under the sun didn't sleep though so I should probably lay off while I'm up 4k.

[Jmac]

9 hours ago, CRA said:

I mean, if we actually got rid of the people associated with 2-15 everyone would largely celebrate.  
 

 

The whole team would be gone.

[CarolinaWillRise]

9 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Von Bell, Bozeman, Hayden Hurst, all were under contract

Decent,absolute sh!t in a zone scheme, 18 catches 184 yards 1td 1massive concussion.

 

Right 

[Ricky Spanish]

I defended not trading burns at the time because I figured a deal was imminent and he was the only pass rusher we had.

The moment Fitterrer balked at signing him to a long term deal we were fucked. Not trading him only boosted his asking price, which the FO should have realized, so when Burns asked to be paid like a player worthy of two firsts and a second round pick we of course didn't think he was worth that money?

In what world does that make sense?

 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I defended not trading burns at the time because I figured a deal was imminent and he was the only pass rusher we had.

The moment Fitterrer balked at signing him to a long term deal we were fucked. Not trading him only boosted his asking price, which the FO should have realized, so when Burns asked to be paid like a player worthy of two firsts and a second round pick we of course didn't think he was worth that money?

In what world does that make sense?

 

and I will contend to this day, there is no player in the nfl that isnt a qb that you dont accept that offer for.  2 firsts and a second and anyone gets traded.   Ive watched football for far to long to know that a player can simply fall off a cliff at any moment.  That type of draft capital, if parlayed correctly, can set your team up for a long time