Rumor: Canes Acquire Jake Guentzel

[CarolinaWillRise]

Just now, Chief_Chokeaho said:

That’s a good trade for us. Pono was going to struggle to see this roster with Drury. 

Agreed pono/Bunting were the only real values....

 

25% retention on top of unloading Bunting....

That's close to 6m in space still I don't think the Canes are done yet.

[Harbingers]

3 minutes ago, CarolinaWillRise said:

How so? Pomi is the only one worth a dang other than Bunting and with 25% retained I'm guessing anther move is coming 

A 4.5 million dollar player with three years on contract, 2 second round prospects, a 4th round prospect, a 1st round conditional and a 5th round conditional next draft.

Does not equal in overall value Guentzel for 2 months and Ty Smith. 

[CarolinaWillRise]

BTW pretty much everyone is saying The Canes worked the pens over on this trade.

[Harbingers]

3 minutes ago, CarolinaWillRise said:

That's close to 6m in space still I don't think the Canes are done yet.

There’s not much left on the market but scraps. Vatrano and Buch, if the reports are true and the blues want 2 firsts for Buch we are out. 

[MillionDollarCam]

Decent trade.

Wish Koivunen wasn’t included, I think he’ll be a 3C in the NHL.

At least the picks are contingent on us making/winning the cup.

In my mind I’m looking at it like:

Carolina Receives: Jake Guentzel (1/2LW - hopefully re-signs), Ty Smith (defensive depth for the playoffs)

Pittsburgh Receives: Michael Bunting (3LW), Ville Koivunen (3C), Vasily Ponomarev (4C), Cruz Lucius (AHL/Fringe 4th Liner), first or second round pick, possibly a 5th round pick.

[Panthers Fan 69]

7 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Decent trade.

Wish Koivunen wasn’t included, I think he’ll be a 3C in the NHL.

At least the picks are contingent on us making/winning the cup.

In my mind I’m looking at it like:

Carolina Receives: Jake Guentzel (1/2LW - hopefully re-signs), Ty Smith (defensive depth for the playoffs)

Pittsburgh Receives: Michael Bunting (3LW), Ville Koivunen (3C), Vasily Ponomarev (4C), Cruz Lucius (AHL/Fringe 4th Liner), first or second round pick, possibly a 5th round pick.

Scared money don’t make money. I love it. Let’s pull for our guy now. He is a cane!

[Harbingers]

5 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Decent trade.

Wish Koivunen wasn’t included, I think he’ll be a 3C in the NHL.

At least the picks are contingent on us making/winning the cup.

In my mind I’m looking at it like:

Carolina Receives: Jake Guentzel (1/2LW - hopefully re-signs), Ty Smith (defensive depth for the playoffs)

Pittsburgh Receives: Michael Bunting (3LW), Ville Koivunen (3C), Vasily Ponomarev (4C), Cruz Lucius (AHL/Fringe 4th Liner), first or second round pick, possibly a 5th round pick.

I think Ty is more of an AHL project player. There’s a reason he’s only played 9 games for the Pens after 2 seasons at the NHL level in Jersey. Plus that -32 is ugly. 
 

I think Ville has a higher ceiling. 

[MillionDollarCam]

4 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

I think Ty is more of an AHL project player. There’s a reason he’s only played 9 games for the Pens after 2 seasons at the NHL level in Jersey. Plus that -32 is ugly. 
 

I think Ville has a higher ceiling. 

Hopefully TDA clears because right now we have no defensive depth. Coghlan and Smith are next men up.

[Harbingers]

Could have been an capfriendly error but they had almost immediately moved the Guentzel trade, he was LTIR but it’s been updated to IR in the past few minutes.

[Harbingers]

You know what’s fuged up? Bunting literally did canes corner last night and then we dump him the next night. Brutal. 

[DavidEng]

Curious as to when Guentzel will actually come off IR ready to play.

Quite a bold gamble on a rental but it’s the kind of move you make for an elite scorer to win the cup so I’m all in.  And maybe Canes can sign him to a decent term contract.

[Harbingers]

8 minutes ago, DavidEng said:

Curious as to when Guentzel will actually come off IR ready to play.

Quite a bold gamble on a rental but it’s the kind of move you make for an elite scorer to win the cup so I’m all in.  And maybe Canes can sign him to a decent term contract.

He’s been skating in a regular jersey but I don’t think it’s been at full contact practice. There is video from yesterday/today on Twitter but it was just shooting drills.

[Harbingers]

20 minutes ago, DavidEng said:

Curious as to when Guentzel will actually come off IR ready to play.

Quite a bold gamble on a rental but it’s the kind of move you make for an elite scorer to win the cup so I’m all in.  And maybe Canes can sign him to a decent term contract.

Definitely looks like just solo drills probably to help with the trade interest. I don’t think we see him for a week or two at least. Which gives him less time to learn the defense and PP. 

Edited March 8 by Harbingers

[GamecockSmitty4]

Not sure if it was mentioned but the first is dependent on us making the Finals. If no Finals, it becomes the Flyers 2nd. I’m very impressed with Waddell on this one. 
 

Now go get us a 2C.