Snap Count Key?

[DevilCat]

AFMB- Posters are saying the Cards were reading Ryan's snap count. I must say the Cards seemed to be in the Falcon backfield on more than one play. Just wondering if it was just Ryan being a rookie and wide eyed with his first playoff game, or with film study they could do the same against us?:eek:

[Delhommey]

If you're concerned, I'm pretty sure Jake's a little saltier than Ryan.

[panthers2u]

If you're concerned, I'm pretty sure Jake's a little saltier than Ryan.

...and this is a home game.

[Pumpkin Eater]

Fox will be intelligent enough to make sure it's not an issue.

[goodoleboy]

AFMB- Posters are pretty much dumbasses. What they are seeing is the advantage of crowd noise on a D lines burst off the ball.

[DevilCat]

I guess it's pre-game jitters... I'm sure Jake is well versed in changing up the count compared to "Ice Man"

[Mr. Scot]

Story was that Dan Henning almost always had the offense running the same snap count.

(falls under the 'forget fooling them, just run over them' category)

True? Don't know, but if so I seriously doubt it's still in effect.

[neverlosethefeeling]

So you're trying to tell me a professional football team was going on the same snap count all the time?

Get real.

[Mr. Scot]

Similar deal: In the 03 Cowboy game, Buckner caught on to Quincy Carter tipping the snap count (something he did with his hands, if I remember right) and the Panthers D-Line used it against the Cowboys offense all game.

[neverlosethefeeling]

Similar deal: In the 03 Cowboy game, Buckner caught on to Quincy Carter tipping the snap count (something he did with his hands, if I remember right) and the Panthers D-Line used it against the Cowboys offense all game.

That I can believe...but no one will tell me a pro football team was going on one/two/first sound the whole time.

[Mr. Scot]

So you're trying to tell me a professional football team was going on the same snap count all the time?

Get real.

The story was reported after Henning's firing (Observer, I think). Whether it's true or not, I don't know. The Panthers are fairly tight-lipped and don't like to bad mouth anyone, even guys they've let go, so I doubt they'd confirm it.

Watching the way Henning ran the offense when he was here, I have to admit it sounds at least somewhat plausible.

[rainwater]

The Cards definitely saw something about how Ryan snapped the ball to get a jump on. It wasn't all because of crowd noise. Several times the ends jumped offsides right as the ball was being snapped. They clearly weren't doing this because of crowd noise. They saw something.

However, my biggest beef was the defensive tackle lined up off sides on every single freaking play and not once did the refs call him on it.

[CosmoGirl]

The story was reported after Henning's firing (Observer, I think). Whether it's true or not, I don't know. The Panthers are fairly tight-lipped and don't like to bad mouth anyone, even guys they've let go, so I doubt they'd confirm it.

Watching the way Henning ran the offense when he was here, I have to admit it sounds at least somewhat plausible.

I remember that as well.

[Pumpkin Eater]

I have read that AZ noticed Ryan leans back a little or something of that nature in anticipation of the snap.