Panthers plan to renegotiate the deal for RT Taylor Moton

[ClawOn]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Y'all, this could simply be a contract extension.

Panthers plan to renegotiate Moton

Panthers plan to cut Moton

Panthers plan to trade Moton...

All get the same responses from the same dudes

[pantherclaw]

5 hours ago, blueandblackattack said:

Smart move. He's the only cornerstone on our o-line and the most expensive on the roster so far, so we gotta keep him but also find a way to make room. Still pretty young and hasn't missed much time. Very reliable. He's the closest thing to a right side Jordan Gross we've had. We gotta make room if we wanna keep this D intact and have room to make some free agent signings.

This. 

Moton is absolutely a stud and a leader on our oline. He has plenty left to be able to play. 

They want to extend him to lower his number, and keep him in. Panther uniform for a long time. No reason not to. 

 

This isn't kicking the can down the road. It is making sure we keep the best of our oline as we work to improve our oline. 

 

Edited March 5 by pantherclaw

[RJK]

Moton was bad last year also and as the “leader” of that room I don’t see a lot of dawg in him. I like the player but these vets have become ok with losing 

[jb2288]

6 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

But why kick the can down the road? Save future cap space for when we are ready (hopefully) to sign some key FA to make a playoff run. 

Using the term “kicking the can down the road” implies this is a negative that we are trying to put off. Moton is a good player. This is just us extending him and saying you’re 30 and a great RT who we want to be here long term. I really don’t see the issue here 

[SmokinwithWilly]

38 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Using the term “kicking the can down the road” implies this is a negative that we are trying to put off. Moton is a good player. This is just us extending him and saying you’re 30 and a great RT who we want to be here long term. I really don’t see the issue here 

A lot of extensions tend to be backloaded. I don’t like the idea of backloading a contract and spending that extra to bring in more expensive FAs when we arent in a winning position. If they did it and front load it, it’d be fine. Id just rather embrace the rebuild, pay the big money now while we’re going to have a lot of lower cost guys, and save that cap space for when we improve.

[d-dave]

I imagine that this is more likely an extension to get his cap number down for a few more years.

Prior to last year, Moton has consistently been good.  Good pass pro, good run blocking, great leadership.  Let's be real honest: the Reich/Brown offense was literally a flaming bag of feces.  Everyone ended up rolling around in it, covered in poo.  Moton is really good, and he needs to be retained.

I'm all for keeping him.  Also, I've about given up on caring what the salary cap is.  You have tools to continue to move money, contracts can be manipulated, etc.  Just get the guys here to play.  

What is the option?  Hope that Brady C is a good enough RT?  Draft one?  Spend capital on another starting quality RT?  I'd rather allocate more resources else where than try to replace a good, quality player.

[mrcompletely11]

8 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

This. 

Moton is absolutely a stud and a leader on our oline. He has plenty left to be able to play. 

They want to extend him to lower his number, and keep him in. Panther uniform for a long time. No reason not to. 

 

This isn't kicking the can down the road. It is making sure we keep the best of our oline as we work to improve our oline. 

 

 Backloading a contract for an aging player is the epitome of kicking the can down the road

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

 Backloading a contract for an aging player is the epitome of kicking the can down the road

Moton has been healthy and effective his entire career. Good OT's can last well into their 30's. There shouldn't be any discussion about getting rid of Moton unless he wants prime LT pay.

[KillerKat]

Moton is going to be a career panther and you mouth breathers are going to have to suck it up and live with it.

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Moton has been healthy and effective his entire career. Good OT's can last well into their 30's. There shouldn't be any discussion about getting rid of Moton unless he wants prime LT pay.

Nobody is saying out right cut him or that he isnt productive, its just that the way his contract was set up and the fact that we are not winning in 2024 it just makes sense to absorb the hit instead of pushing that money, likely extending him longer to 4 or 5 years down the road.  That just doesnt make sense to me.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Nobody is saying out right cut him or that he isnt productive, its just that the way his contract was set up and the fact that we are not winning in 2024 it just makes sense to absorb the hit instead of pushing that money, likely extending him longer to 4 or 5 years down the road.  That just doesnt make sense to me.

It actually does to me. I have no issue giving him an extension. It allows us to rebuild the rest of the OL and not worry about finding a guy at RT, as well.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

It actually does to me. I have no issue giving him an extension. It allows us to rebuild the rest of the OL and not worry about finding a guy at RT, as well.

he is under contract for 2 more years, the big 30 million hit is 2024.  We can still extend him after this year at a more reasonable rate.  The money he is owed for 2024 will get paid out no matter how you extend him.  The hit will come at some point and I would rather it be now instead of when we might be good and need to add some players from f/a.    Going from a 13 million cap hit to 30 is fuging nuts. 

[mrcompletely11]

But if Tillis is as good as they say he might could negotiate/structure a deal that is favorable for us, I just dont see it though but its always a possibility 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

he is under contract for 2 more years, the big 30 million hit is 2024.  We can still extend him after this year at a more reasonable rate.  The money he is owed for 2024 will get paid out no matter how you extend him.  The hit will come at some point and I would rather it be now instead of when we might be good and need to add some players from f/a.    Going from a 13 million cap hit to 30 is fuging nuts. 

I have no problem extending him, converting a big chunk to a signing bonus(lowering his cap hit) and having more money to either roll over to 2025 or spend on Luvu and Brown.