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What were some of your reactions when we took Jonathan Stewart in the 2008 draft? Honestly, for me, I was like, "Fox, Hurney, what the hell are you doing?"(well, worse than that!) Looking back, two years later, it was one of their 'better moves'!

I just hope we are lucky again in this years draft............

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I figured they wanted a 1-2 punch. I also figured they wanted a player more like Stephen Davis to pound the rock. The fact is we have the idiots in the FO of the Lions and Raiders to thank. Gosder Cherilous was selected to play RT by the Lions just two picks before. Then the Raiders took Darren McFadden instead of The Daily Show. That was a very good draft for us. Godfrey and Connor also were part of that year. The Lions on the other hand passed on Ray Rice for Kevin Smith.

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i had been keen on him during the offseason. He seemed like a good fit for our system since D-will had not proven he could run between the tackles consistently at that time. honetly, i think the competition generated between the two of them, although friendly, has driven them both to develop into exceptional RB's.

To me, that draft solidified the teams identity, we needed a bruiser at RB, and a mauler at RT. we got them both.

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Not going to lie I thought it was a bad pick, but at the time I was unaware of the effectiveness of the two-back system. And for this very reason I choose not to doubt the Panthers front office until they are proven completely wrong i.e. the Delhomme scandal

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