Golden Tate not in Mel Kiper or Todd McShay's first round

[Biggdaddi1022]

why do you want golden tate??????? shouldn't we be looking for a receiver who bigs another deminsion....... tate is good but he wouldnt make that much difference on this team....... we need a big reciever with speed who can block..........

[Kurb]

I could very easily see him lasting till the top of the second.

Let's hope b/c I don't really care for him as a WR.

[rayzor]

i'd rather have taylor price. won't have to give up so much and price is probably going to be more consistent. tate would be good to have as a returner and thats where i think he would be most useful.

i'd also throw a vote in for eric decker in the later rounds. dude is flat our ready to play big time ball and will come cheap.

i might move up a little for demaryius thomas. i like that guys potential but i think we have some of that potential in dwayne jarrett and he's more ready for the offense than thomas. i do like what thomas would bring as a blocker, though.

[Boltergeist]

Aside from the Jets at 29, I don't see much of the teams in the 1st after pick 20 that will be going in WR direction. NE and BAL could, but (at least for the Ravens) it's not a heavy need.

[Sword]

i remember when we all wanted Deangelo Williams(I did) but nobody thought he would drop all the way to the bottom of round one..if it's meant to be it is meant to be...if he plays like Steve Smith then Steve Smith won't be seeing double or triple coverage...

[mick eye]

McShay and Kiper know Diddley. Golden had the best combine. His competition either did not participate in the 40 or many other tests (Dez or Bay Bay). Ran slower than they were expected to (Lefell or Gilyard). OR had bad showing in drills like Benn who looked like Braylon Edwards 2.0.

The fact that people have drawn comparisons with Smitty tells you all you need to know.

He is faster than everyone in the draft other than Ford but a better receiver than FORD. He has none of the red flags of Dez Bryant. He was developed by Charlie Weiss. You don't think that one of the off shoots of the Patriot Coaching Tree will take a chance on him you are crazy. AS A MATTER OF FACT i will say that the Broncos at 11 will take him. Mark it down. Sticky it or whatever the guy is actually the best receiver in the draft.

[Delhommey]

Annnnnnnnd we've found our Notre Dame homer.

[Kurb]

McShay and Kiper know Diddley. Golden had the best combine. His competition either did not participate in the 40 or many other tests (Dez or Bay Bay). Ran slower than they were expected to (Lefell or Gilyard). OR had bad showing in drills like Benn who looked like Braylon Edwards 2.0.

The fact that people have drawn comparisons with Smitty tells you all you need to know.

He is faster than everyone in the draft other than Ford but a better receiver than FORD. He has none of the red flags of Dez Bryant. He was developed by Charlie Weiss. You don't think that one of the off shoots of the Patriot Coaching Tree will take a chance on him you are crazy. AS A MATTER OF FACT i will say that the Broncos at 11 will take him. Mark it down. Sticky it or whatever the guy is actually the best receiver in the draft.

Now pretend you are a USC fan talking about him:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[The Saltman]

can you name a player that was any good in the nfl that was developed by weiss?

[Jase]

Observer headline: Golden Showers Down to Panthers in 2nd Round

[mick eye]

I am not a ND fan yet alone homer. The guy made Clausen look good. Let's break down the top WR's and compare.

Bay Bay Thomas - Paul Johnson's triple option is about as far from a pro style offense as you can get. Doesn't possess a clear second gear. Like many taller receivers sometimes has trouble with low passes. WHEN DOES HE PLAN ON RUNNING?

Brandon Lefell - LSU receiver who is very capable physically and is a prototype sized player. More of a possession receiver than a speed or deep threat.

Dez Bryant - Questions about his maturity, consistency and work ethic persist. Playing prima donna before even drafted = RISK. OSU plays a gimmick college offense.

Damian Williams - Much like Lefell he does not have many cons other than lack of pure speed. I like Williams and it hard to find much bad to say about him other than coming out of USC ( university of spoiled children.)

Golden Tate - Speed. He has it. I seem to remember someone in the Panther organization saying they wanted speed across from Smith. Tough runner for his size. Coached well in route running in a PRO-STYLE offense. His height is the ONLY negative. Sound familiar. Sounds like Smith to me.

[Samuel L. Jackson]

I'd rather have Gilyard over Bryant, Thomas, LaFell, and Benn... But if it were between he and Tate, it'd be a tough choice... I think they are both mature, have good swagger and confidence on the field, are great route runners, are able to catch the ball in traffic, and have the ability to get open and be dangerous in the open field...

I lean towards Gilyard because I think he's more polished and he has a slight height and hand advantage, but Tate would be our next Steve Smith... He is so comparable to him it isn't even funny...

That said, Gilyard has Smith-esque moves at times too... So we can't go wrong with either...

I've predicted the trade-up with KC for a while now, and I think that is the route we'll be exploring if certain players are there... Tate is one of those players, while Gilyard is almost guaranteed to be there at our pick anyways, and could slide into the 3rd...

[The Saltman]

IM not against tate at all. I guess im still learning about these receivers. its a deep class this year, thats for sure.

[The Saltman]

I've predicted the trade-up with KC for a while now, and I think that is the route we'll be exploring if certain players are there... Tate is one of those players, while Gilyard is almost guaranteed to be there at our pick anyways, and could slide into the 3rd...

You predict too much. Has any of your predictions ever came true? if so, give me an example.