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JR is on a mission....


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All of the defnsive line put together haven't started as many games as the least of the guys they let go. Tyler has started 18 games in his career. And Leonard has started 5. Brown and Charles Johnson combined have started a total of 5 games in their career. Yeah lots of experience. How many games has Anderson started? Yeah, ten games in a 4 year career. That doesn't qualify as many. Less than one season's worth.

Can they play as well as the starters they will replace? There is a reason they all were backups.

I get the youth movement, cutting old vets, and whatever. I am not deluding myself to believe we will be better, however. At least not with what we have. I think we will have growing pains and start out very slow on defense. I think this year will look like last year. Bad at first and hopefully better as the year progresses. We could very easily be a contender down the line. But a playoff team in 2010. Only if we have real success in the draft and picking some quality free agents rather than scrubs and castoffs. As Led Zeppelin once said- There is still time to change the road you are on.[/QUOTE]

We just did. :D

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From my perspective its simple:

You either take a risk or stay conservative at this point. Richardson or whoever is calling the shots wants something new & young. Therefore, the FO is going to test our young guys and not let the Panthers become a place for rotting veterans (Thats the skins job).

Yeah, nice players who everyone loved and passed their prime are gone. People, if we drop players because of this, why pick up free agents in the same predicament?? Wait till after the draft to get all loopy. Our fan base needs to take a giant chill pill with some codine. ;)

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And the Wallace Wright scrub pick up is just to compensate for the recent releases. Its not like the guy is going to be starting for us.

wallace isn't a scrub. he may only play on STs but in what area have we consistently sucked for years? he is the gunner that we have been needing.

he wasn't picked up to play WR or as camp fodder. he was picked up to be the next karl hankton. it's the first time in years i can remember us picking up someone just to play special teams other than lloyd and jensen. we have been adding depth for skill positions hoping they could fill in on STs even though they never had much experience. this guy is a STs ace.

i for one am glad they are considering STs a priority this year.

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You just answered your own question spanky

But I'm sure he want to win as well. You just hate him, so you're making up lies & excuses. Just like claiming the Bears fans took over BoA last year, which is another of your BS. :rolleyes:

And spanky? Nice to see you're gay with calling someone that kind of a name. May as well now get your screen name fixed & put "Gayman was right". :rofl: :rofl:

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Hoover was very productive, if JR is cutting dead weight he made a HUGE mistake.

Seems to me the team as little ambition or direction for the upcoming season.

For the first time in a long time, albeit a bit premature, I'm very skeptical about this year. I'm not impressed with anything I've seen and to date we've done nothing to actually improve.

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But I'm sure he want to win as well. You just hate him, so you're making up lies & excuses. Just like claiming the Bears fans took over BoA last year, which is another of your BS. :rolleyes:

And spanky? Nice to see you're gay with calling someone that kind of a name. May as well now get your screen name fixed & put "Gayman was right". :rofl: :rofl:

Lmao! I love watching you talk smack gaydude. Its entertaining only because you think you're good at it lol

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My concern is that we are overstating the performance of our young guys at the tail end of last year. We did not face teams that were playing well or in some cases playing for anything. The Saints game was meaningless. The Bucs were not a formidable foe. The Vikings have not been a good road team for years and JP was dominant in that game. Also the Giants faded against several other teams down the stretch and their "great" start was based upon a schedule against the train wreck teams. We have some good young talent as do many other teams, but I think we are swinging the ax a bit too hard and over relying on some as yet unproven players.

While I believe it's good to replace older players with younger ones when it's apparently needed, I don't think it's wise to do so many all at once. The whole DL will be replaced with new and limited experienced players, I can't imagine any HC or DC in the NFL that would prefer this, unless they had the worst DL in the NFL, which wasn't the case for the Panthers. Doing all these moves in one season appears to be done with the thinking this next season will be sacrificed.

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