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We now know what we have at QB and the resources are going to be used to save him.  Canales knows the system he has in mind and he knows the WR types he needs.  He does not need 6-2 210 lb WRs--We have 3 (Theilen, Mingo, and TMJ, if he makes it).  We need some slot guys who can get up field if necessary and some YAC guys--that is my GUESS.  If so, we can get one or two later in the draft.  It will become clearer after free agency and the combine, when we see who they are interested in.

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21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So why isn't he? You can turn on the college tape of anyone drafted highly and find great highlights. They weren't highly drafted because they sucked in college. Honestly, you could say that for anyone drafted, period. You're talking about the cream of the crop of college talent.

I dont know why he isn't but he SHOULD be. If he can physically make that throw in college then I expect him to make it in the pros and certainly if he was the number 1 overall pick. If he can do it, then I expect him to do it and if all of a sudden he can no longer then I have to find someone who can if im Dan Morgan

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1 minute ago, Ricky Prickles said:

I dont know why he isn't but he SHOULD be. If he can physically make that throw in college then I expect him to make it in the pros and certainly if he was the number 1 overall pick. If he can do it, then I expect him to do it and if all of a sudden he can no longer then I have to find someone who can if im Dan Morgan

It's just different, man. If everyone could do the same things they did in college in the NFL then there would never be any busts outside of injuries and off field stuff. Projecting talent to the next level ain't easy. There are plenty of 4 and 5 star HS recruits who bust in the college game too.

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7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Project guy at the moment

So you’re saying he’d fit right in?

Seriously tho. I think smart drafting is something that we have lacked since ever.   I’m good with taking a chance on a guy in the later rounds but this team desperately needs to hit on a a couple picks that can contribute immediately. 

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's just different, man. If everyone could do the same things they did in college in the NFL then there would never be any busts outside of injuries and off field stuff. Projecting talent to the next level ain't easy. There are plenty of 4 and 5 star HS recruits who bust in the college game too.

That’s different when you are talking about a physical ability of a player. He needs “5-6 yards and a running start” to throw the ball 40 yards but he didn’t in college. Also he doesn’t if they are open? It’s some flawed logic. You could argue he doesn’t have the confidence to attempt it or the play calling/protection is preventing him from doing so, but saying he flat out can’t when he has is just not right. At the end of the day he is getting the ball from point A to point B and it’s hitting it spot on without all the requirements you were suggesting. 

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5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That’s different when you are talking about a physical ability of a player. He needs “5-6 yards and a running start” to throw the ball 40 yards but he didn’t in college. Also he doesn’t if they are open? It’s some flawed logic. You could argue he doesn’t have the confidence to attempt it or the play calling/protection is preventing him from doing so, but saying he flat out can’t when he has is just not right. At the end of the day he is getting the ball from point A to point B and it’s hitting it spot on without all the requirements you were suggesting. 

It's not though. A receiver being open gives you a much wider margin of error. Those Bama boys were usually OPEN. Yeah, Bryce can throw deep in non-ideal situations if a guy is wide open and he can put a ball into a zip code. Can he do it when a guy is "NFL open" and he has to throw to a specific address? That's what I haven't seen.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's not though. A receiver being open gives you a much wider margin of error. Those Bama boys were usually OPEN. Yeah, Bryce can throw deep in non-ideal situations if a guy is wide open and he can put a ball into a zip code. Can he do it when a guy is "NFL open" and he has to throw to a specific address? That's what I haven't seen.

Then it’s simply a timing issue. The video I posted had Burton in stride while having good coverage on him. His arm has the ability to get it to his target. He will need muscle memory and timing to zero in on accuracy if you are saying that’s the issue. Hell I’ve seen QBs with cannons struggle with deep passes. 

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24 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Then it’s simply a timing issue. The video I posted had Burton in stride while having good coverage on him. His arm has the ability to get it to his target. He will need muscle memory and timing to zero in on accuracy if you are saying that’s the issue. Hell I’ve seen QBs with cannons struggle with deep passes. 

I don't think it's that simple. Why was our downfield passing attack significantly improved with Dalton who had a lot less reps with the starters?

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1 minute ago, Aussie Tank said:

That’s how drafts should be run FA is for need draft for BPA 

I think need has to be factored into picks in some regard. I mean, if your top prospects are similarly rated but there's one guy there at a position of much greater need obviously you should take that guy. What I'm saying is that with our roster makeup I really don't see where we have a position of such strength that it should negate taking the pure BPA.

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