What if there's no lockout?

[Cyberjag]

Here's what I understand about the NFL labor disagreement..

• The owners want to reduce the salary cap by 18%. The players don't want to take a pay cut.
  
• The owners want the players union to implement a rookie salary cap. The players want the owners to take the responsibility for rookie salaries and quit paying rookies so much.
  

That's really what it's all about, behind all the talk about new stadiums and growth of the sport and all. And the Owners will get paid in 2011 even if there aren't any games because of the way their TV contracts are structured.

Here's something to consider. First, read this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wm-david-cornwell-sr/there-will-not-be-a-locko_b_463803.html

If the games are actually played in 2011 and, as the article suggests, the owners get their way as far as a new lower cap is concerned, then who are the big winners in Free Agency right now? The Panthers look be absorbing all of their salary cap mistakes in one uncapped year. That will position them very well in 2011 and beyond.

What are your thoughts on all this? With that in mind, who are the biggest losers in Free Agency?

[Zod]

Anyone who overpays right now for any player is going to be hurt big time. I am assuming though that there is not a collective bargaining agreement clause in their new contracts that lets them redo a contract should the cap situations change.

[Matt Foley]

I think the players back down at the last minute this time.

[Snake]

The players always suffer when there is a lockout. It want be long before they will come to the table and negotiate.

[Cyberjag]

Anyone who overpays right now for any player is going to be hurt big time. I am assuming though that there is not a collective bargaining agreement clause in their new contracts that lets them redo a contract should the cap situations change.

That's what I'm thinking. It occurred to me that the Bears have set themselves up for massive long-term failure in an attempt to win it all this year, that's what made me think of it.

[carolinanimal]

exactly. this team is primed for 2011 and beyond.

[Lumps]

There wont be a lockout. These players aren't going to do anything else and they want to get paid.

[carpanfan96]

That's what I'm thinking. It occurred to me that the Bears have set themselves up for massive long-term failure in an attempt to win it all this year, that's what made me think of it.

Pep gets paid 20 million this season, So going into next season they'll owe him a 5 year deal worth up to 71 million if he gets over 12 sacks a year, gets DPOY each season and so on.....His contract is very incentive laden.

[Snake]

Pep gets paid 20 million this season, So going into next season they'll owe him a 5 year deal worth up to 71 million if he gets over 12 sacks a year, gets DPOY each season and so on.....His contract is very incentive laden.

He still will be a major cap hog. If Lovie gets fired and they start to rebuild it will take them a lot longer with his massive contract. Thats prob why we didnt resign him right there.

[GRWatcher]

If there's no lockout the Panthers will be scrambling to extend everyone they want to keep past 2010, everyone on a 1 year contract including the coaches and trainers. Or they will be hiring a new head coach with a multi-year contract. So far, they've set themselves up as if the world will be ending at the end of 2010. They may get the money from the tv contracts even with a lockout but that would be used to pay for the stadium/facilities and the few contracts that will exist in 2011, basics like that that they can't shed now.

[Wither]

If there's no lockout the Panthers will be scrambling to extend everyone they want to keep past 2010, everyone on a 1 year contract including the coaches and trainers. Or they will be hiring a new head coach with a multi-year contract. So far, they've set themselves up as if the world will be ending at the end of 2010. They may get the money from the tv contracts even with a lockout but that would be used to pay for the stadium/facilities and the few contracts that will exist in 2011, basics like that that they can't shed now.

What?