Smitty vs. Fitzgerald

[cardsfanmd]

thank you sir

[Udogg]

Also, there is ZERO CHANCE smith would beat Fitz out for a jump ball (just like Fitz couldn't beat Smith on a deep ball). Fitz is almost a foot taller and has the same vertical leap, combined with the best hands in the game.

Fitz would catch it first is probably correct. Steve Smith would come down with it though. If it took eye gouges, drop kicks, cross face chicken wing, full nelson, spit, round house, haymaker or whatever...Steve Smith would come down with the football.

[frash.exe]

Wrong. I am not trying to put down Smith at all. He is one of my favorite all-time non-Cards, but what you say there was nothing more than blind homerism.

You can say that the Cards throw more and have a better recieving core, but Fitz is still the one that gets the double-teams, not Boldin. ESPN even did a study and found that Fitz is the second most doubled reciever in the game behind Andre Johnson (Smith was 4th behind TO).

You can also say that Smith doesn't benifit from having as good of a recieving core, but he has something that Fitz has never had and that is a ground game. Teams are forced to stack the line against you guys all the time while they NEVER do so against the Cards. There is always 5 in the secondary for Fitz to beat out.

Finally we get to the YAC issue. I agree that Smith is either the best or second best in the league in that category (him and Boldin are up there IMO), but to try and bring their numbers into it is erroneous. Fitz is 6-5 and Smith is 5-8. What does that mean? It means that anytime we have a 3rd and short, we just use Fitz's height on the sideline, whereas Moose takes those short passes for you guys if one of the RBs doesn't take care it. We also rarely go deep with Fitz. Instead we keep him and Boldin short to keep more defenders shallow then go deep with our #3 Steve Breaston one-on-one against your nickelback.

I dont think it is fair to compare the two as they are completely different WRs.

Also, there is ZERO CHANCE smith would beat Fitz out for a jump ball (just like Fitz couldn't beat Smith on a deep ball). Fitz is almost a foot taller and has the same vertical leap, combined with the best hands in the game.

Yea, but consider this. Fitz has the size you want at WR. 6-3, 220, he's big, fast physical. Smith doesn't have size on his side, yet he comes up with just about the same yardage. So, pound-for-pound, I'd have to say Smith is the better of the two.

Fitz only beats Smith out by 6 inches, not a foot, if you were to throw a few jump balls for them they'd be split between the two.

[cardsfanmd]

Fitz would catch it first is probably correct. Steve Smith would come down with it though. If it took eye gouges, drop kicks, cross face chicken wing, full nelson, spit, round house, haymaker or whatever...Steve Smith would come down with the football.

Haven't you read this thread. Fitz showed in October that he has no problem tossing women around.

j/k

btw- He isn't a character issue at all. He got caught up by a gold-digging sack chaser last year in Oakland (she was a cheerleader for the Gayduhs). The chick admits that he was trying to difuse and arguement about visitation of his son when she punched him in the face. He then pushed her to the other side of the room.

I know Smith is tough, but we have one of those as well and his name is Anquan Boldin. Luckily for you, you wont see much of him this week.

[bleys]

Wrong. I am not trying to put down Smith at all. He is one of my favorite all-time non-Cards, but what you say there was nothing more than blind homerism.

You can say that the Cards throw more and have a better recieving core, but Fitz is still the one that gets the double-teams, not Boldin. ESPN even did a study and found that Fitz is the second most doubled reciever in the game behind Andre Johnson (Smith was 4th behind TO).

You can also say that Smith doesn't benifit from having as good of a recieving core, but he has something that Fitz has never had and that is a ground game. Teams are forced to stack the line against you guys all the time while they NEVER do so against the Cards. There is always 5 in the secondary for Fitz to beat out.

Finally we get to the YAC issue. I agree that Smith is either the best or second best in the league in that category (him and Boldin are up there IMO), but to try and bring their numbers into it is erroneous. Fitz is 6-5 and Smith is 5-8. What does that mean? It means that anytime we have a 3rd and short, we just use Fitz's height on the sideline, whereas Moose takes those short passes for you guys if one of the RBs doesn't take care it. We also rarely go deep with Fitz. Instead we keep him and Boldin short to keep more defenders shallow then go deep with our #3 Steve Breaston one-on-one against your nickelback.

I dont think it is fair to compare the two as they are completely different WRs.

Also, there is ZERO CHANCE smith would beat Fitz out for a jump ball (just like Fitz couldn't beat Smith on a deep ball). Fitz is almost a foot taller and has the same vertical leap, combined with the best hands in the game.

You may look at stats this year and make it true. But a ground game for the Panthers? Up until this year we haven't had a RB go over 1000 yards since '03. We've had NO supporting cast since Muhammed back in '04. And even then, Smitty was injured ALL year long. I think you may find similar situations and even in '05, Smitty had the triple crown. Hard to do even with a good running game, much less without one at all.

Not so sure the guy was using blind homerism so much... Although, this year would be the exception.

Oh, and I was originally going to say, comparing these 2, the differences are very very small. Only thing that separates the 2 is Fitz's height and Smitty's speed. I do not mean to take anything away from Fitz, but Smitty has some very very clutch and sure hands.

[frash.exe]

FFT, Smitty has more yards in the last 5 seasons he's played more than 10 games than Fitz has in his last 5 seasons.

[cardsfanmd]

Yea, but consider this. Fitz has the size you want at WR. 6-3, 220, he's big, fast physical. Smith doesn't have size on his side, yet he comes up with just about the same yardage. So, pound-for-pound, I'd have to say Smith is the better of the two.

But he doesn't come up with the same yardage, so what besides you being a Panther fan is your reasoning for calling Smith the better of the two? Fitz, is younger bigger and is still getting better. I hate to break your hearts, but there isn't one GM in the league who would take Smith over Fitz. Youth is the deciding factor here.

Fitz only beats Smith out by 6 inches, not a foot, if you were to throw a few jump balls for them they'd be split between the two.

Fitz is 6-4 and Smith is realistically about 5-7 (yes I have seen him in person). I will be more than generous and give you 5-9. Still. Fitz has much longer arms and a 38" vertical. You just really make no sense. I could understand if you just said "Hey I am a Panther fan and love my boy Smith so I am gonna say he can do anything". But to try and use facts that prove the opposite of what you are saying just makes you look bad.

[VisitingCardFan]

Trying to figure out which one of these two recievers is better is a futile effort. I heard it on ESPN the other day and I agree, Fitz and Smith are the two best recievers in the NFL with the ball in the air. Fitz is amazing cause he goes after the ball and gets it at its highest point..(See the Cowboys game from this year when he went over Henry for proof), Smith has this just overwhelming knack of when the ball is in the air finding the space to come down with it!

Both these guys are AMAZING! We as Cardinals and Panthers fans should be extatic they are on our teams. So I guess when it comes down to picking your favorite, its just a matter of preference.

[ChucktownK]

Fitzy has those insane one-handed catches. What Smitty does with his hand is push Defensive helmets in the grass. For a lil guy, he's got some incredible skrenff.

[WarnerToFitz]

FFT, Smitty has more yards in the last 5 seasons he's played more than 10 games than Fitz has in his last 5 seasons.

That's because the cards have 3 1000 yard WR not just 1. Look smith is great but the Cards have 3 great WR if they only had 1 Fitz would have a lot more yards.:eek:

[bleys]

Y'all can talk circles around this issue all day. There's one simple answer... They both are elite and possibly the top 2 in the leaque.

They are too different to be compared in such a similar fashion. They both demand double teams and score points. I think that says about all you need.

[HSCBandit07]

Look back at Smiths run blocking this year...amazing for his size. He knocked a buccaneers d-lineman on his head during that game. Is Fitz a complete player like smitty including run blocking and special teams?

[WarnerToFitz]

Fitzy has those insane one-handed catches. What Smitty does with his hand is push Defensive helmets in the grass. For a lil guy, he's got some incredible skrenff.

If your going to the game and want to see Fitz and Kurt do there thing see the worm ups. Kurt stand on the 45 to 50 yard line and throws to Fitz in the corner of the endzone and he grabs them all with one hand over and over again it's looks nasty. If not it's OK you will see it maybe 2 or 3 times in the game.

[HSCBandit07]

besides smith only gets the ball thrown to him a couple times a game...and still gets over 100 yards receiving

Usually gets a few rushing yards to boot