Should Pat Tillman go into the Hall of Fame?

[Go To Girl]

Proudly raises my hand as a sap

[dimbee]

Pat Tillman did nothing on the football field to deserve to be in the HOF. That's the bottom line.

[Go To Girl]

He wouldn't be the first to get into the HOF without numbers on the field. What makes announcers, owners more deserving?

Here's a list of those right there

Bert Bell 1933-1959 -- Commissioner - National Football League, 1946-1959; Team Owner - Philadelphia Eagles, 1933-1940, Pittsburgh Steelers, 1941-1946

Charles W. Bidwill, Sr. 1933-1947 -- Team Owner - Chicago Cardinals, 1933-1947

Joe Carr 1921-1939 -- President - National Football League, 1921-1939

Al Davis 1963-present -- Team Owner - Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, 1966-present; Head Coach - Oakland Raiders, 1963-1965; Commissioner - American Football League, 1966

Jim Finks 1964-1982, 1986-1992 -- Team Administrator - Minnesota Vikings, 1964-1973, Chicago Bears, 1974-1982, New Orleans Saints, 1986-1992

George Halas 1920-1983 -- Founder/Team Owner - Decatur Staleys/Chicago Staleys/Chicago Bears, 1920-1983; Head Coach - Decatur Staleys/Chicago Staleys/Chicago Bears, 1920-1929, 1933-1942, 1946-1955, 1958-1967; Co-Founder - National Football League, 1920

Lamar Hunt 1959-2006 -- Co-Founder - American Football League, 1959; Team Owner - Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs, 1959-present

Earl (Curly) Lambeau 1919-1953 -- Team Founder/Coach/General Manager - Green Bay Packers, 1919-1949; Head Coach - Chicago Cardinals, 1950-1951, Washington Redskins, 1952-1953

Tim Mara 1925-1959 -- Founder/Team Owner - New York Giants, 1925-1959

Wellington Mara 1937-2005 -- Team Administrator/Team Owner - New York Giants, 1937-2005

George Preston Marshall 1932-1969 -- Founder/Team Owner - Boston Braves/Boston Redskins/Washington Redskins, 1932-1969

Hugh (Shorty) Ray 1938-1952 -- Technical Advisor on Rules, Supervisor of Officials - National Football League, 1938-1952

Dan Reeves 1941-1971 -- Team Owner - Cleveland/Los Angeles Rams, 1941-1971

Art Rooney 1933-1988 -- Founder/Team Owner - Pittsburgh Pirates/Steelers, 1933-1988

Dan Rooney 1955-present -- Team Administrator/Team Owner - Pittsburgh Steelers, 1955-present

Pete Rozelle 1960-1989 -- Commissioner - National Football League, 1960-1989

Tex Schramm 1947-1956, 1960-1990 -- Team Administrator - Los Angeles Rams, 1947-1956, Dallas Cowboys, 1960-1989; President/CEO - World League of American Football, 1989-1990

Using the criteria that so many have pointed out - what in the heck are any of those guys going there?

[9Lives]

Here's a list of those right there

Using the criteria that so many have pointed out - what in the heck are any of those guys going there?

This has to be a joke....right? Better look at those names again.

[dimbee]

What all of those people have in common is their role in the advancement and furthering of the NFL game/product, which Pat Tillman, quite frankly, had no hand in. He furthered a sense of patiotism, sure, but not the NFL product.

[Bo In Monroe]

who cares that he gave up money to go die for no reason

a very poor opinion but it is yours.

[9Lives]

a very poor opinion but it is yours.

Amen to that!

[MadHatter]

who cares that he gave up money to go die for no reason

Hey Fiz....Go fug Yourself. Most of your posts are just stupid rantings of an apparent idiot. However, this one proves that you are truly a fuging moron.

There is a slow train to Canada if you don't like fighting for your country....your pansy ass is perfectly suited for a seat on it.

[cookinbrak]

He got a Medal of Honor. He deserved that. Nothing else.

If you do some research into how he died, you might be surprised.

[HoFBound90]

The answer is no

[Hawk]

I agree with the no answer based on his on field. I like the idea of an honorable mention or something though...or a special place for those that go above and beyond on the community service etc.

PS...keep the personal attacks out of the forums...consider yourself warned

[Go To Girl]

What all of those people have in common is their role in the advancement and furthering of the NFL game/product, which Pat Tillman, quite frankly, had no hand in. He furthered a sense of patiotism, sure, but not the NFL product.

I said that based on the criteria that was listed by posters in this thread for reasons he should not go would also eliminate many of those people as well. That criteria included rings, stats, awards, on field play, championships, hall of fame is earned on the field, not off. I don't disagree that those people should not be included, they do. I was only following the logic of this thread. My vote in this poll is that Pat Tillman belongs for some of the same intangibles that some of these other people belong. I do not have a vote when it actually comes down to it though so it's just a thing.

[Go To Girl]

He got a Medal of Honor. He deserved that. Nothing else.

If you do some research into how he died, you might be surprised.

Being killed by friendly fire and then having it covered up still does not belittle what he did. I think you'll find most people know how he died.

[9Lives]

Being killed by friendly fire and then having it covered up still does not belittle what he did. I think you'll find most people know how he died.

I commend what he did....but he didn't die on the football field.

NO............he has my utmost respect.....but still NO