Bryce Young’s Arm Strength

[LinvilleGorge]

6 hours ago, 0kBoomer said:

There is a lot of trash about Bryce’s arm here. Let’s not forget CAN sling it. 
 

He doesn’t have a Josh Allen rocket arm. He doesn’t need it. 
 

He has all the arm strength needed to be successful. What he needs is a pocket he can actually step up in and receivers who can get separation. 

Y'all gotta let the college tape go or at least see it for what it is. Every throw where Bryce looks to show decent arm strength he has a ton of room to step into the throw and follow through. Yes, our OL sucked but watch other games. Watch other QBs still generate velocity and drive the ball even when under pressure. Hell, watch Andy Dalton do it in Seattle in our offense. THAT is what Bryce can't do. If you need everything to go perfectly in order to create velocity and/or go downfield you aren't an NFL QB. Pockets are usually muddy in the NFL. Those NFL defenses are actually pretty good too. You're not able to stand around and do your taxes while waiting on one of your future NFL WRs beats the brakes off of a future PE teacher like you could at Alabama. Don't forget, people had to create this hilarious narrative that Bryce was having to carry inferior talent at ALA-fuging-BAMA in order to explain some of the shortcomings that were clearly apparent in his college film. If you gotta make lack of surrounding talent excuses for an Alabama player... oh wee mayne.

[Paa Langfart]

I can't believe someone actually made a thread touting Brice's arm strength after watching him this past season.  This is just new world level delusion.

[frankw]

4 hours ago, 0kBoomer said:

Alright lil bro I’m adding you to ignore along with that clown guy. Not every one who believes in Bryce is another user on a new account. You can choose to believe that or not idc. But you just derail any real discussion at this point. 

[PghPanther]

I'm gonna do it...........I'm gonna say it.......and then we can come back here around around December and see if I eat crow or not.

and that is................

Bryce Young is an epic BUST

There I said............I know there are some of you that feel the same but well.......just won't say it.........so I will think out loud for those who aren't and that is he is no better prepared be an NFL QB than Tepper is an NFL owner.

They both have each other....................good..........now stew in their failure together.  

BTW.....did any of you figure out I'm a fatalist?

How in the world did you come to that conclusion?

Don't worry I don't count.........only Tepper Big Brain counts.  

 

Edited February 2 by PghPanther

[WhoKnows]

4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I wanted Stroud early on last year, but I had my doubts about him.  When Drew Brees came into the league, they said his arm was weak.  Matt Ryan's arm was not strong. 

My reservations were formed when Frank and David and Scott felt the need to promote his personality and maturity.  Like they were selling the pick.  I have a feeling that Nicole may have made the pick---at least had a voice in it.

Do you actually believe that Nicole Tepper made a pick that we traded away two firsts, two second and DJ Moore for?

I mean, really, how in the world could you really think she made the pick. Stroud called her mama Tepp, maybe she was the only person that actually said draft Stroud. I get the Tepper hate, he’s hired seriously terrible people so far but it’s truly comical that with ex-NFL QBs, ex-coaches who coached HOF/pro-bowl QBs and tons of NFL experience on staff before the draft that people actually believe Nicole Tepper made that pick.

We fuged up the pick and many other picks/trades/non-trades the past few years but I personally guarantee that Nicole Tepper did not draft Young.

[electro's horse]

57 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

I can't believe someone actually made a thread touting Brice's arm strength after watching him this past season.  This is just new world level delusion.

yeah i don't even know what to say to these people anymore. 

dude had like 3 good quarters of passing the entire season and it looked like he was doing an impersonation of a macy's day parade 

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Stingray3030 said:

At least tag an actual data driven article - this is an opinion piece.  There aren't even reference for the vague statistical references it does have.  You could spend a little more time on your random Google search

I'd have to read through numerous articles. It's too negative and disheartening. Someone will compile all his failures this past season soon enough I'd suspect. But let's not act like there isn't enough evidence out there to see a larger picture of what was a bad season. That's not even questionable. 

He'll get another shot. Let's all hope that he is markedly better, because just "better" ain't going to cut it.

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

And those people would be wrong in doing so. It's not the players fault where they are drafted and what was given up to acquire them. It's up to the team to maximize that investment as best they can. 

That's not entirely true, at least in Bryce's case. He showed up to combine 15 lbs heavier than he played at to give the appearance of being bigger. He also didn't throw against his competition for the top spot at the combine. Then there was the S2 that he supposedly dominated so well that it made all his other competitors look uneducated, despite his having practiced for the test for years and Stroud's released score possibly being released with the incorrect number. And lastly, there's the dinner where he broke down a play so eloquently that even Dave and Nicole were amazed at his intelligence. 

I'm not saying Bryce is the only one to manipulate the system, but let's not pretend like he didn't manipulate it. It's up to whoever is making the decisions to see through all the BS and make a proper evaluation. Our problem was, 1/3 of those responsible, and ultimately those with the final say, don't have the first idea about how to evaluate a QB for the NFL level. Hell, one of them had barely finished the class on how to even take part in anything to do with the NFL. 

[Stingray3030]

Just now, top dawg said:

I'd have to read through numerous articles. It's too negative and disheartening. Someone will compile all his failures this past season soon enough I'd suspect. But let's not act like there isn't enough evidence out there to see a larger picture of what was a bad season. That's not even questionable. 

He'll get another shot. Let's all hope that he is markedly better, because just "better" ain't going to cut it.

He will be better this year, but won't be a top 10 guy most likely - we can't make enough moves in 1 season with our capitol give a fair test right away.  2025 will be the true test...similar to how Chicago has given Fields 3 years to prove he is worth anything - which he hasn't.

[pantherclaw]

7 hours ago, csx said:

He needs a lot for a #1 pick. He was supposed to make those around him better.

He throws balls that are easy to catch. He does elevate others. He still needs his oline to protect him. 62 sacks is unacceptable.  

I'm personally tired of people claiming bryce can't throw deep, isn't accurate.  Can't see the field. 

 

I get a bunch of you simply don't like Bryce Young, but talking poo about him just makes it look like you don't know football. 

[pantherclaw]

6 hours ago, frankw said:

Can we put a ban on posting college highlights until our #1 pick looks like a #1 pick?

Seriously he just finished his first N-F-L season as one of the statistically worst rookie QB's ever.

Waaaaaa

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, Stingray3030 said:

He will be better this year, but won't be a top 10 guy most likely - we can't make enough moves in 1 season with our capitol give a fair test right away.  2025 will be the true test...similar to how Chicago has given Fields 3 years to prove he is worth anything - which he hasn't.

I disagree wholeheartedly. Get a couple of lineman, preferably an LT and a guard, a WR1 and a pass catcher at TE, and that's absolutely enough for Bryce to work with and evaluate as to whether he's legit or a bust. Not to mention better schemes and play calls. No way we're waiting until after 2025 if Bryce doesn't show anything in 2024. That would be managerial malfeasance.

[electro's horse]

6 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

He does elevate others.

the only elevating bryce does is to a higher level of care

 

[pantherclaw]

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

the only elevating bryce does is to a higher level of care

 

Yeah.  Ask Cam how being big protected him.