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J person, Athletic. Canales has one job Fix Young

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1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I remember the rough patch between Harbaugh and Shanahan but I forgot it took Shanahan 3 seasons to get things going.  Now this year you have Dan Campbell getting it together in year 3.  Hopefully Tepper will be more patient with Canales than he was with Reich.

I think Canales has potential--I like that he basically had a long time mentor in Carroll who brought him with to the NFL, was in a sound organization, with a SB win.  However, given the state of our roster, expectations should be floor 4-5 wins.  This is incremental. 

This next season is a "Is Bryce it" year while also having a foundational build.  Key parts need to be attained I.E. offensive playmaker, a new pass rusher, and a new defensive centerpiece (if Shaq and Luvu are gone)     

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16 hours ago, Waldo said:

Now he can't sit Young to 'improve him' so Young has to fix all of his footwork and find an arm in 1 offseason to be ready to start game 1 while avoiding a sophomore slump? LOL 

Well.... The good news is I don't think we have to worry about a sophomore slump for Bryce. Slump implies playing worse and I am not sure it is possible for Bryce to look any worse than he did last year...

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21 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

this hire says they are rolling with bryce for at least 2 more years

It’s the NFL.  No one gets 3 years while being bad just because….

This is make it or break it for Bryce.  He has to get better to stay on the field after this season.   If this year looks like last year….he isn’t going to be a starter in his 3rd season. 

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21 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You can't fix a noodle arm QB who can't scan the field because his Oline is towering over him.

 

The physical tools are lacking. Nothing we can do about that.

 

I'm already looking at the 2025 QB class. 

while i agree with this, step one is going to be the footwork, he's gotta get that right. then he can get his vision right. proper footwork is the key to everything and i don't give a fug what these bryce backers say, his footwork was atrocious this year. 

I do think the elephant in the room is they coddled him too much early on afraid he'd get hurt. It's at the point where he is going to have to be one read and take off, then hopefully the threat of that will start opening up more options to locate.

Do not believe any of the bullshit tepper and company fed you last year about bryce, it was all hype to justify his decision making.

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3 hours ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I’m fine with rolling with Bryce for one more year as of right now. If he starts to look like a real QB, great. If he plays us back into another top-3 pick, great

Yep.  The situation should resolve itself.  

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8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

The article is stupid--no head coach's job is to "fix" one player.  It does, however, suggest that they see the problem as coaching, and I agree.  The play calling was terrible and predictable.  The system was not one that would allow Bryce to prosper--so he did not prosper.  His WRs simply were not open--we heard that all season long--do not dismiss the importance of an open WR on QB development.  The OL made mental and technical mistakes all season long. 40% of the OL was injured and we had to play inexperienced developmental players there.  The QB was sacked 65 times or so, something I blame on the WRs as much as the OL.  TE?  We were below average.  So if we can give Bryce weapons, change the system, improve the OL.  Addition by subtraction.  Folks, we are signng some weapons this offseason.  (See Dolphins, Miami) Stay tuned.

An open TE is more valuable.
I don’t get the Thielen signing when a good TE would be as fast or faster and get more YAC. 

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4 hours ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

An open TE is more valuable.
I don’t get the Thielen signing when a good TE would be as fast or faster and get more YAC. 

I try to avoid making blanket statements--but I get your position and share it if I understand what you are saying, but it depends on the players.  Theilen's productivity matched the rest of the WR room.   He is not an "either / or" replacement for a TE, in my view.  Tremble stepped up, Hurst sucked and was injured, and Ian Thomas must have photos of Tepper with a male prostitute.

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