Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

J person, Athletic. Canales has one job Fix Young


raleigh-panther
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, bandu said:

yeah I  don't understand why successful originizations like the 49ers make a big trade up to #3 overall for QbTrey Lance for example & still make him earn the starting QB job in camp &then  know when it's time to cut their losses if he doesn't eventually show signs that he can be the starter one day  .then on the other hand you have a team like the Panthers who just continually trot a player out there week in & week out that clearly is not ready to be the starter nor the best option at QB...just saying 

It’s why the 9ers are sniffing the Super Bowl again and the panthers are in full on desperation mode. Two different franchises. One with a clear vision and execution the other well….you know. 
 

I expect by game six next year for the Brice Young era to be over in Charlotte. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Tyrod Taylor and Alex Smith could not be less comparable.  Not sure what you’ve been watching.  

Regardless, the point is you need a backup with UPSIDE…risk adverse is not the priority.  Andy Dalton is risk adverse but he won’t push Bryce in any way.  If Bryce doesn’t play well, we need someone to win games and push him at the same time without threatening him. 

You said the ideal vet for Bryce, which I interpreted as mentor. If that's not the case then understood.

With respect to Tyrod, dude is exactly the same player as Alex Smith down to the same allergy to touchdowns, which cost him the job in Buffalo. In terms of 'threat to Bryce' he is no different than Dalton, who I never mentioned but who is just as likely to win games as Tyrod.

Tyrod got 3 seasons as a starter. Dalton and Smith both had way more than that. Tyrod is defintely not above the Dalton line. Tyrod, Dalton... doesn't matter who is on the roster.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You can't fix a noodle arm QB who can't scan the field because his Oline is towering over him.

 

The physical tools are lacking. Nothing we can do about that.

 

I'm already looking at the 2025 QB class. 

It’s really more mental problems than physical ones. He has a weakish arm but plenty of QBs have thrived with similar arms. And of course QBs with similar difficulties seeing over the line have thrived (and in one case been a top ten-ish all time QB). With Young it’s about decision making and processing speed (but but but the S2!!! Is garbage.)  After those two deficiencies his next biggest problem is accuracy. I’ve never seen a more inaccurate passer, whether under pressure or throwing from a clean pocket to a wide open receiver. After that would be arm strength. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, KSpan said:

You said the ideal vet for Bryce, which I interpreted as mentor. If that's not the case then understood.

With respect to Tyrod, dude is exactly the same player as Alex Smith down to the same allergy to touchdowns, which cost him the job in Buffalo. In terms of 'threat to Bryce' he is no different than Dalton, who I never mentioned but who is just as likely to win games as Tyrod.

Tyrod got 3 seasons as a starter. Dalton and Smith both had way more than that. Tyrod is defintely not above the Dalton line. Tyrod, Dalton... doesn't matter who is on the roster.

You changed this whole topic around, but that’s what we do on The Huddle I guess.

Gardner Minshew, Tyrod Taylor, and Jacoby Brissette are better starting QB’s than Bryce Young or Andy Dalton *RIGHT NOW*.

Bryce should start, but he needs a vet at #2 that will push him and also keep the fans happy (wins) if inserted into the lineup.

Not someone to threaten his career (Fields, rookie) but a vet to compete.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

47 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Tyrod Taylor and Alex Smith could not be less comparable.  Not sure what you’ve been watching.  

Regardless, the point is you need a backup with UPSIDE…risk adverse is not the priority.  Andy Dalton is risk adverse but he won’t push Bryce in any way.  If Bryce doesn’t play well, we need someone to win games and push him at the same time without threatening him. 

Last season wasn’t about winning. It was about Bryce starting no matter what. Dalton looked better in the one game he played in one of the most hostile environments in the NFL, in the rain, and under tremendous pressure. It doesn’t need to be about upside. It needs to be about winning. Dalton should have been playing the first half of the season at minimum. Bryce wasn’t ready. Nothing wrong with that. But you have to be willing to acknowledge the truth about the situation and that’s not something Dave, Scott, and possibly Frank were willing to do. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Last season wasn’t about winning. It was about Bryce starting no matter what. Dalton looked better in the one game he played in one of the most hostile environments in the NFL, in the rain, and under tremendous pressure. It doesn’t need to be about upside. It needs to be about winning. Dalton should have been playing the first half of the season at minimum. Bryce wasn’t ready. Nothing wrong with that. But you have to be willing to acknowledge the truth about the situation and that’s not something Dave, Scott, and possibly Frank were willing to do. 

I agree with that, that’s why I say we need to have the best backup QB in the league with the most upside.

Tyrod, Minshew, a few others are just better than Dalton and still won’t threaten Bryce long-term - just push him.  

When Bryce needs to be benched, Bryce needs to be benched.  And we need to still have a chance to win the game.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

You changed this whole topic around, but that’s what we do on The Huddle I guess.

Gardner Minshew, Tyrod Taylor, and Jacoby Brissette are better starting QB’s than Bryce Young or Andy Dalton *RIGHT NOW*.

Bryce should start, but he needs a vet at #2 that will push him and also keep the fans happy (wins) if inserted into the lineup.

Not someone to threaten his career (Fields, rookie) but a vet to compete.

If I did, it was a misunderstanding from your original post. Agreed that Tyrod is generally a solid backup and agreed that all the guys you mention are about the same level. Tyrod was actually on my list of bridge QBs back in 2020 before Rhule and Tepper caught the dumb and threw silly money at Teddy.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It’s possible but I really doubt it.  If Bryce is the same or worse next year I’d expect the team to move on.  Real question is does this coach survive to see that happen?

I hope that Canales didn't make any promises other than, "I'll give it the old college try."

If Tepper fires Canales for not being able to fix Bryce, that would really be unfair to the HC and the fans. At least Canales would have a payday. Fans would have absolutely nothing instead of another wasted year of our lives.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, top dawg said:

I hope that Canales didn't make any promises other than, "I'll give it the old college try."

If Tepper fires Canales for not being able to fix Bryce, that would really be unfair to the HC and the fans. At least Canales would have a payday. Fans would have absolutely nothing instead of another wasted year of our lives.

The odds would favor it being another losing season for us. Whether it will be wasted will depend on how they improve the roster, if they even do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The article is stupid--no head coach's job is to "fix" one player.  It does, however, suggest that they see the problem as coaching, and I agree.  The play calling was terrible and predictable.  The system was not one that would allow Bryce to prosper--so he did not prosper.  His WRs simply were not open--we heard that all season long--do not dismiss the importance of an open WR on QB development.  The OL made mental and technical mistakes all season long. 40% of the OL was injured and we had to play inexperienced developmental players there.  The QB was sacked 65 times or so, something I blame on the WRs as much as the OL.  TE?  We were below average.  So if we can give Bryce weapons, change the system, improve the OL.  Addition by subtraction.  Folks, we are signng some weapons this offseason.  (See Dolphins, Miami) Stay tuned.

Edited by MHS831
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, 4Corners said:

It’s why the 9ers are sniffing the Super Bowl again and the panthers are in full on desperation mode. Two different franchises. One with a clear vision and execution the other well….you know. 
 

I expect by game six next year for the Brice Young era to be over in Charlotte. 

The York's have made plenty of terrible decisions and post-Harbaugh was pretty brutal. 4 seasons, 17-47 record, 3 coaches.  It doesn't make us any better, but just consider, it wasn't all peachy.     

Cycled through Tomsula and Kelly 2 years in a row after Harbaugh.  They brought in Shanahan, who wasn't considered this savior type hire.  Then proceeded to start his coaching career 10-22.  Just look at the stuff written and said about them after that second season.  People hated his dual role, stubbornness, made bad challenges, didn't have a good rhythm of calls run-pass early on either.    

Sometimes you just stumble into the right group of people that click.  Once they got guys like Deebo, Bosa, Greenlaw, and Shan called in his pal Forrester to help, they took a huge step forward.  He had the personnel and staff where his strengths were able to be flexed. 

But Lynch and Shanahan took big lumps early and many people weren't fans.  Unsavory trade ups in the draft (not just Lance).  Him and Lynch were reported to have a beef at the get-go, there were leaks coming out from the FO, it was a mess.  Solomon Thomas didn't pan out, Reuben Foster even moreso.  

Sometimes, they can just figure it out, but people acting like they had some magical button that was just hit aren't remembering correctly.  

Oh and then York had the whole insider trading fiasco as well.

 

 

  • Pie 2
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would hate to accept a job knowing my first order of business that I am expected to do is fix someone who I did not pick and does unfortunately have some serious flaws with mechanics, size, strength, mental confidence and aggression to push the ball downfield. If Tepper fires new guy because he is unable to fix Bryce then that is some serious BS. I hope he can but i am not confident he can fix Bryce and he may need to find and draft his own guy.

  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

52 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

The York's have made plenty of terrible decisions and post-Harbaugh was pretty brutal. 4 seasons, 17-47 record, 3 coaches.  It doesn't make us any better, but just consider, it wasn't all peachy.     

Cycled through Tomsula and Kelly 2 years in a row after Harbaugh.  They brought in Shanahan, who wasn't considered this savior type hire.  Then proceeded to start his coaching career 10-22.  Just look at the stuff written and said about them after that second season.  People hated his dual role, stubbornness, made bad challenges, didn't have a good rhythm of calls run-pass early on either.    

Sometimes you just stumble into the right group of people that click.  Once they got guys like Deebo, Bosa, Greenlaw, and Shan called in his pal Forrester to help, they took a huge step forward.  He had the personnel and staff where his strengths were able to be flexed. 

But Lynch and Shanahan took big lumps early and many people weren't fans.  Unsavory trade ups in the draft (not just Lance).  Him and Lynch were reported to have a beef at the get-go, there were leaks coming out from the FO, it was a mess.  Solomon Thomas didn't pan out, Reuben Foster even moreso.  

Sometimes, they can just figure it out, but people acting like they had some magical button that was just hit aren't remembering correctly.  

Oh and then York had the whole insider trading fiasco as well.

 

 

I remember the rough patch between Harbaugh and Shanahan but I forgot it took Shanahan 3 seasons to get things going.  Now this year you have Dan Campbell getting it together in year 3.  Hopefully Tepper will be more patient with Canales than he was with Reich.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Cause we're hating ass haters, that's why!! 😆 
    • https://knowt.com//note/c12fbb28-25ce-4617-9eda-b0ebcd654706/Blast-Keto-ACV-Gummies--Premium-Keto-Gu https://knowt.com//note/8fc208c4-ccb8-48c6-b4da-ceadcc292b79/Knox-47-Male-Enhancement--Improve-Sex- https://www.italki.com/en/post/xoRHA9VV4nMoWdreO2Rs8Y https://www.italki.com/en/post/n1iGf5qkE1d3sVHTt8Rw2M https://www.italki.com/en/post/tEAIJlWhodYKiVcatdasRT https://www.italki.com/en/post/xoRHA9VV4nMoWdreO2Rrya https://www.italki.com/en/post/tEAIJlWhodYKiVcatdasWk https://www.italki.com/en/post/tEAIJlWhodYKiVcatdasrq https://www.pinterest.com/pin/1096415471782662777 https://www.pinterest.com/pin/1096415471782662878   https://richardherison.omeka.net/ https://kravish.omeka.net/ https://jassik.omeka.net/ https://www.italki.com/en/post/mK6SRF4vkvAYbedLmWMlpw https://www.italki.com/en/post/6DlEP8HkhpiGPMxABLRVAi https://www.italki.com/en/post/6DlEP8HkhpiGPMxABLRVCO https://www.italki.com/en/post/6DlEP8HkhpiGPMxABLRVEu https://www.italki.com/en/post/rOYOh3oBlafJYdOdulNuNM https://www.italki.com/en/post/rOYOh3oBlafJYdOdulNuO0 https://www.italki.com/en/post/mK6SRF4vkvAYbedLmWMnGU https://www.italki.com/en/post/mK6SRF4vkvAYbedLmWMnLP https://knowt.com/note/01e6f3dc-9e2d-4985-b822-6fa51e2c53c9/Valiant-Keto-ACV-Gummies-HONEST-Caution https://knowt.com/note/7a6b0cf9-709c-409b-9276-b463136f8168/Welnax-BioClear--Official-Toenail-Fu https://knowt.com/note/bd61bb68-8792-42e1-818e-978b7cf23434/Golden-Revive-Joint-Support--My-Experien https://knowt.com/note/4abe93ca-afa8-4c4a-8e05-cd9ddceb0b53/SlimSure-UK---CoNSuMer-SaFety-FirST- https://knowt.com/note/066e3c8e-1e14-4d82-93b3-71a66fd178ff/Slimsure-Superdrug---Weight-Management- https://knowt.com/note/b25d7a43-4a9b-439d-a0b3-b0d811dabb85/SlimSure-lvens-hule---Danmark-Vi-prve https://knowt.com/note/275d7ca4-2c52-42d7-a419-59a4641624a0/Slimsure-Matas-slimsureofficial-Heal https://knowt.com/note/bd64f90a-8a0a-4a99-82bb-0aee0068039a/Welnax-BioClear-Toenail-Fungus-Device https://knowt.com/note/342775cc-c45f-4410-b895-d6ebab7d4234/Golden-Revive-Joint-Support https://knowt.com/note/cd825615-4e6d-40ce-af59-3360a1908416/Slimsure-Superdrug-UK https://knowt.com/note/34a3bf4b-efa4-4cb3-9b0a-498fa0b1c156/SlimSure-Reviews-UK-and-Ireland https://knowt.com/note/1cbd17fe-29fc-49a3-a814-d689d8c32404/SlimSure-lvens-hule-Slim-Sure-lvens-h https://knowt.com/note/f09d9e23-5187-4654-a7c4-513946177b67/Slimsure-Matas-Denmark-DK https://knowt.com/note/e2323187-d599-4847-8b99-f02343448238/Ember-Ghee-Male-Enhancement--USA-Disc https://knowt.com/note/bad0c533-25b7-4da7-affc-a16f452e548c/Ember-Ghee-Male-Enhancement--HONEST-C https://knowt.com/note/17294f38-4563-4639-8c87-61524bf66d20/BioZenetics-CBD-Gummies-Reviews-CoNSu https://knowt.com/note/ee46792a-efef-4f31-be75-05b987a3263f/BioZenetics-CBD-Gummies-Reviews-We-Trie https://knowt.com/note/205eb65b-a662-4805-abba-1a3ad4e41c8e/Erectonin-MD-Male-Enhancement-Canada-Ot https://knowt.com/note/a6b96597-d56d-4ccd-aafa-173cd75935db/Erectonin-MD-Male-Enhancement-Canada-W https://knowt.com/note/6726c383-7e74-4218-8978-8252f2f92f19/Titan-Boost-Male-Enhancement---Male-Enh https://knowt.com/note/50320811-153d-4e97-9790-22cf591b5bd9/Titan-Boost-Male-Enhancement-How-to-Hav
    • If someone hacked your Facebook, changed your email and phone number, and password, immediately 1-888-811-3518 go to facebook.com/hacked to report the compromised account and follow their recovery prompts. Here's a more detailed breakdown of what to do: Report the Compromised Account: Go to facebook.com/hacked. Select "My account is compromised"1-888-811-3518. Follow the prompts to regain access. You may be asked to enter a previously used password or provide new contact information 1-888-811-3518. Be prepared to provide ID or other verification information to confirm your identity. If you can't access your email or phone number 1-888-811-3518, use the "No longer have access to these?" option or similar prompts. The phone numbers 650-543-4800 and 1-888-811-3518 are often falsely portrayed as Facebook customer service lines. However, neither 650-543-4800 nor 1-888-811-3518 are official support numbers for Facebook. The phone number 1-888-811-3518 or 650-543-4800 is associated with Facebook, but it's not a direct customer support line. Here's a breakdown of what you need to know: Not a Customer Support Line: Facebook does not provide traditional phone support 1-888-811-3518 for users experiencing problems like hacked accounts, locked profiles, or billing disputes. Other Uses: This number might be used for security verification, customer service interactions, or other official purposes 1-888-811-3518. How to Get Help: To contact Facebook for support, 1-888-811-3518 log into your account, go to the top right corner, click on your profile image, select "Help & Support", and then click "Help Center" 1-888-811-3518. Be cautious: Always exercise caution when receiving unsolicited calls, as Facebook will never ask for sensitive personal information 1-888-811-3518 over the phone. Official Facebook Number: 650-543-4800 or 1-888-811-3518 is an official contact number for Facebook, but it is not for customer support. The Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 is a valuable resource for resolving common issues and getting support on the platform. 650-543-4800 or 1-888-811-3518 is a number that has been linked to Facebook in some online discussions. Some people believe that it's Facebook's official support number 1-888-811-3518, but is it really? The short answer is: 1-888-811-3518 No, it's not the primary or official Facebook customer service phone number 1-888-811-3518. # Facebook Help Center FAQ ### General Questions **1. What is the Facebook Help Center?** The Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 is an online resource that provides answers to common questions, guidance on using Facebook features, and support 1-888-811-3518 for various issues users may encounter. **2. How can I access the Facebook Help Center?** You can access the Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 by visiting [facebook.com/help](https://www.facebook.com/help) or by clicking on the "Help" option in the dropdown menu on your Facebook account. ### Account Issues **3. How do I recover my Facebook account if I forgot my password?** To recover your account, go to the login page, click on "Forgot Password?", and follow the prompts 1-888-811-3518 to reset your password via your email or phone number. **4. What should I do if my account has been hacked?** Visit the Help Center 1-888-811-3518 and follow the instructions under "Hacked and Fake Accounts" to secure your account and recover it. **5. How can I deactivate or delete my Facebook account?** You can deactivate your account through your settings under "Your Facebook Information 1-888-811-3518 ." For deletion, follow the same path and select "Delete Account." ### Privacy and Security **6. How do I adjust my privacy settings?** You can adjust your privacy settings by going to 1-888-811-3518 "Settings & Privacy" > "Settings" > "Privacy" and managing your options from there. **7. What should I do if I see inappropriate content?** You can report inappropriate content by clicking on the three dots (•••) next to the post or comment and selecting "Find support 1-888-811-3518 or report post." ### Features and Functionality **8. How do I create a Facebook Page?** To create a Page, go to the "Pages" section from the menu, click on "Create New Page," and follow 1-888-811-3518 the prompts to set up your Page. **9. How can I use Facebook Marketplace?** You can access Facebook Marketplace from the menu 1-888-811-3518. From there, you can browse listings or create your own to sell items. **10. What is Facebook Groups, and how do I join one?** Facebook Groups are communities 1-888-811-3518 where people can share interests. To join a group, search for it in the search bar and click "Join Group." ### Ads and Business **11. How do I create a Facebook ad?** To create an ad, go to the Ads Manager, click on "Create," and follow the instructions 1-888-811-3518 to set up your ad campaign. **12. What is Facebook Business Suite?** Facebook Business Suite is a tool that helps 1-888-811-3518 businesses manage their Facebook and Instagram accounts in one place, including posts, messages, and insights. ### Troubleshooting **13. Why can't I log into my Facebook account?** If you cannot log in, check your internet connection, 1-888-811-3518 ensure you are entering the correct credentials, and try resetting your password if necessary. **14. What should I do if I encounter a technical issue?** Visit the Help Center and search for your specific issue, or report a problem through the "Help" section 1-888-811-3518 of your account. ### Community Standards **15. What are Facebook's Community Standards?** Facebook's Community Standards outline the rules and guidelines 1-888-811-3518 for acceptable behavior on the platform, including content restrictions and user conduct. **16. How can I appeal a content removal decision?** If your content was removed and you believe it shouldn't have been, 1-888-811-3518 you can submit an appeal through the notification you received about the removal. ### Additional Support **17. How can I contact Facebook support?** Facebook does not offer direct customer support 1-888-811-3518 via phone or email for general inquiries. Instead, use the Help Center to find answers or report issues. **18. Are there any resources for businesses needing help with Facebook?** Yes, the Facebook Business Help Center 1-888-811-3518 offers resources and support specifically for businesses, including advertising, page management, and analytics. ### Language and Accessibility **19. Can I access the Help Center in different languages?** Yes, the Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 is available in multiple languages. You can change the language setting at the bottom of the Help Center page. **20. Is there a mobile app for accessing Facebook Help?** Yes, you can access the Help Center 1-888-811-3518 through the Facebook mobile app by tapping on the menu and selecting "Help & Support." Feel free to explore the Facebook Help Center 1-888-811-3518 for more information and resources!! https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191631-rapid-information-is-650-543-4800-facebook-your-go-to-resource-for-assistance https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191776-your-support-hub-what-is-the-facebook-help-center-the-ultimate-guide-fb-help-centr   https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191631-rapid-information-is-650-543-4800-facebook-your-go-to-resource-for-assistance https://forums.ngames.com/forum/league-of-angels/support-ab/technical-support-ab/191776-your-support-hub-what-is-the-facebook-help-center-the-ultimate-guide-fb-help-centr
×
×
  • Create New...