Dan Morgan named GM/President

[Paa Langfart]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Varies per team. Most are basically CEOs that run virtually everything. Some are purely personnel guys.

Dan is also team president now.

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

You do realize Hurney put together the foundational rosters for 2 panthers eras that were in the playoffs consistently, won division titles & went to 2 SBs?

Bad GMs can't even improve a roster to get to the playoffs after the previous GMs foundation has been cleared out. Then there are the ones that ride the coattails of the previous GM & claim it as their success.

Then one can only surmise that Hurney doesn’t get credit for anything from 2002-2005. That was the previous staff he was living off of. If he gets credit for 2013-15, he doesn’t get it credit for his earlier accomplishments. Without Hurney, the Panthers went 51-29-1 with 4 playoff appearances in 5 seasons. Around those, Hurney went 23-41 the previous 4 years, and left a team in salary cap hell. Then took it back over and went 17-31 and could keep a consistent playoff team even in contention for a spot. 
 

So which is it? Can’t have both. Seems closer to neither. 

[CPantherKing]

10 minutes ago, emhoward said:

I was talking about Gettlemen. He was assistant under Gettlemen right? Have I mixed up something?

Beane was under Hurney. Took over as interim GM in 2012. Gettleman was hired over Beane in 2013 (bad decision). Beane had to see Gettleman tear down the work he did as part of the team under Hurney since 1998. Gettleman was suppose to keep Beane around to be the eventual Panthers GM. Gettleman set up Beane & McDermott to be hired by Buffalo following the 2016 season. Guess Gettleman thought it would cement his future as Panthers GM. Gettleman had a falling out after this stunt & in a few months was fired before the 2017 training camp opened. Hurney came back but Gettlemans damage was done & the Bills profited.

4 years forced under Gettleman & 15 years under Hurney.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

Beane was under Hurney. Took over as interim GM in 2012. Gettleman was hired over Beane in 2013 (bad decision). Beane had to see Gettleman tear down the work he did as part of the team under Hurney since 1998. Gettleman was suppose to keep Beane around to be the eventual Panthers GM. Gettleman set up Beane & McDermott to be hired by Buffalo following the 2016 season. Guess Gettleman thought it would cement his future as Panthers GM. Gettleman had a falling out after this stunt & in a few months was fired before the 2017 training camp opened. Hurney came back but Gettlemans damage was done & the Bills profited.

4 years forced under Gettleman & 15 years under Hurney.

Do you just make this stuff up as you go along? 

 

[Shocker]

Checking out folks…see you in August 

Leave you with this …

Edited January 23 by Shocker

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Worst team in pro sports the past several years and they promote from within, lol

[CPantherKing]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

Then one can only surmise that Hurney doesn’t get credit for anything from 2002-2005. That was the previous staff he was living off of. If he gets credit for 2013-15, he doesn’t get it credit for his earlier accomplishments. Without Hurney, the Panthers went 51-29-1 with 4 playoff appearances in 5 seasons. Around those, Hurney went 23-41 the previous 4 years, and left a team in salary cap hell. Then took it back over and went 17-31 and could keep a consistent playoff team even in contention for a spot. 
 

So which is it? Can’t have both. Seems closer to neither. 

He was that previous staff. He was next to Seifert. Hurney was with the team in 1998 after Polian & brought in his protégé in Beane. They took over roster building/administration under Seifert & immediately put together a 1999 contender that would lead to a SB roster including Dan Morgan. Prior to that Hurney came from the Chargers & helped lead them to a SB roster under Beathard.

Didn't realize the roster was built with Hurney while Seifert lost a competitive team with his coaching decisions & fallout with Musgrave? 

[frankw]

10 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Checking out folks…see you in August

[Steelo]

18 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Checking out folks…see you in August 

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Then one can only surmise that Hurney doesn’t get credit for anything from 2002-2005. That was the previous staff he was living off of. If he gets credit for 2013-15, he doesn’t get it credit for his earlier accomplishments. Without Hurney, the Panthers went 51-29-1 with 4 playoff appearances in 5 seasons. Around those, Hurney went 23-41 the previous 4 years, and left a team in salary cap hell. Then took it back over and went 17-31 and could keep a consistent playoff team even in contention for a spot. 
 

So which is it? Can’t have both. Seems closer to neither. 

The 2001 team won 1 game. 

Hurney was actually really good early on.  Drafted well and did FA well. 

[45catfan]

I'm cautiously optimistic about this move.  Dude has been in football his entire adolescent and adult life.  I think he may do well if he can keep Tepper in check.

[jb2288]

Wow… this is… mind boggling. My only hope is there is a ton more info internally where Dan showed where he vouched for said players that Fitt passed on who were successful elsewhere. Idc that Dan came to huddle tailgates and used to play here, get the best man for the job. Maybe he is, and I’ll do my best to trust it but being an internal promote does not get me feeling warm and fuzzy about this at all. 
 

Will sit back, shut up, and hope he proves me wrong. 

[top dawg]

Like I said: not gonna get too high or too down until I begin seeing actual work.

[JawnyBlaze]

52 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

I don’t like to be overly negative I guess people are just not excited. An internal hire has Teppers poop finger prints all over it. Doesn’t feel like he’s learned anything going internally. 

But he’s never gone internal before. This is a new strategy. Didn’t he hire a firm to help him?  What if this was their suggestion?