Carolina Definitely Chose the Wrong QB

[jayboogieman]

5 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I am not about building a college progam in the NFL. You can't adjust for the tallent level down so absolutely try to coach him up but his college playbook won't work in the NFL.

I should have worded that better. I meant build an offense that could take advantage of his strengths that were shown in college. Other than anticipation and being able to take a hit, he really hasn't shown much in the NFL to build off of.

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

I should have worded that better. I meant build an offense that could take advantage of his strengths that were shown in college. Other than anticipation and being able to take a hit, he really hasn't shown much in the NFL to build off of.

Gotcha. Yeah that what I have been trying to say. At the NFL level he really doesn't bring enough to the table. Either way 2024 is his shot and I really do hope they bring in better talent evaluators and team builders because this team is currently a hodgepodge mess.

[frankw]

45 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

I meant build an offense that could take advantage of his strengths that were shown in college.

What are his strengths from college though?

He had an awful deep passing completion % at Alabama that has translated to the next level regardless of all other circumstances.

He needs to have a phenomenal offseason. First order of business is ditching the weight watchers diet and living in the gym. Next order of business is he needs to be connected at the hip with his receivers to develop as much rapport and continuity as possible. While all this is happening we need to be leaving no stone unturned in rebuilding this OL and bringing in more weapons for him. I sincerely hope all this happens. The alternative is bleak as hell. We'll see.

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

What are his strengths from college though?

He had an awful deep passing completion % at Alabama that has translated to the next level regardless of all other circumstances.

He needs to have a phenomenal offseason. First order of business is ditching the weight watchers diet and living in the gym. Next order of business is he needs to be connected at the hip with his receivers to develop as much rapport and continuity as possible. While all this is happening we need to be leaving no stone unturned in rebuilding this OL and bringing in more weapons for him. I sincerely hope all this happens. The alternative is bleak as hell. We'll see.

 

we have been asking what his strengths are, hell what nfl attributes he has since about week 4ish.  Crickets from the peanut gallery.  The best answer we got is he throws with anticipation, but to me just about all starting qbs do this at some point or another in games

[Mongo]

Let's be blunt here: We are stuck with the kid for the foreseeable future.

Was he awful the majority of the time during the season? Yes

Was that completely his fault? No, due to inept coaching and no real firepower around him.

All we can do is hope he improves mightily during the off-season, or 2024 will be just as bad and I may have to get a new liver.

[Shocker]

Football is a team game.  If the entire cast around a player is not good the player will not be good.  I don’t care who you are especially in the top league in the world in that sport.  Especially if he is ROOKIE.   

Not to mention a disjoined staff and leadership around him. 
 

Basic stuff…very basic

[jayboogieman]

 

[GhostOfDocAnderson]

19 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

Young was put in the worst situation of any of the rookie QBs by a long shot.

Hyperbole much? You made it sound like they threw a high school QB into the NFL expecting him to excel. Oh wait...

[GhostOfDocAnderson]

18 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

I should have worded that better. I meant build an offense that could take advantage of his strengths that were shown in college. Other than anticipation and being able to take a hit, he really hasn't shown much in the NFL to build off of.

So you want an offensive line that can hold off the defense for 10 seconds, and if that's not enough time, you want opposing teams' defenders to be dog slow that Bryce has an easy time to evade them and dance in the backfield in order to find a receiver who will get 5 to 10 yards of separation on a regular basis?

Basically you're asking us to become the Alabama of the NFL, with us having a far, far, far more talented roster than the rest of the league. Sorry to break it to you, that's never gonna happen. Bryce probably can't even outrun most NFL defensive tackles, so his Steph Curry style will never translate in the NFL. If he can't pass the ball from the pocket, he has no place in the NFL.

[Shotgun]

 We need to draft sub 6' o linemen so Young can see. Worthless o line killed us being so tall last year. 

[GhostOfDocAnderson]

11 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

 

 

Oooooohhh! You'all hearing this? Bryce got MAD after losing to Da Bears in early November. He was MAD!!!!! So what did he do after that game? Did he improve for the rest of the season? NOPE! He scored only three TDs to go with three interceptions in the eight games after losing to Da Bears.

 

That's as stupid of a hot take as I have ever heard. Does Tim Donnelly think we were all born yesterday?

[strato]

I couldn’t finish it, really. So he got mad. Do something about it. I believe you get respect if you pull your weight in the job we share.

The reality is when BY9 shows he can do the job better than he has so far, maybe someone will listen to him tell them about what they need to do. Before that? It’s just talk. 

As far as radio personality's 'oh boy Bryce Young is mad, look out now’ schtick, was Young pissed that the Bears dropped an int on the third down immediately before the long FG attempt? Or that he was incomplete on 1st and 2nd down? Who was he mad at? I hope himself. 

I mean, they apparently were 3 yards away from Piniero’s personal best yard line, and three plays left them in the same place. 3 plays and you guys can’t get a yard? What kind of faith do you want at that point? More than I’d have. 

At the time I bet the OL or WRs were blamed but it was 0-3 with the game on the line. 

I remember now they blamed Reich. edit: also, at the time, those 3 plays were called by Brown and after the game Reich took the play calling back. FWIW. I think three incompletions from there is pretty bad. 

Edited January 19 by strato

[CPF4LIFE]

8 hours ago, GhostOfDocAnderson said:

 

Oooooohhh! You'all hearing this? Bryce got MAD after losing to Da Bears in early November. He was MAD!!!!! So what did he do after that game? Did he improve for the rest of the season? NOPE! He scored only three TDs to go with three interceptions in the eight games after losing to Da Bears.

 

That's as stupid of a hot take as I have ever heard. Does Tim Donnelly think we were all born yesterday?

All the takes on Bryce have been horrible, its literally lose brain cells worthy.

[strato]

17 hours ago, Shotgun said:

 We need to draft sub 6' o linemen so Young can see. Worthless o line killed us being so tall last year. 

That is Gettlemanesque (QB sails the ball? Simple. Taller WRs!). Congratulations, you demonstrate professional ability, with good potential to steal money from the NFL.