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NFL Wildcard Weekend - Games Thread

Bear Hands

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2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Y'all falling for fancy OC's again. We need a culture changer at HC not some fancy playcaller who doesn't have a QB to make those plays work.

 

Stick to the plan Harbaugh or bust!

Harbaugh is not coming here. Does not want to come here. Will never come here ... unless it's to play against the Panthers.

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11 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

What is sad is this homeristic board refuses to say Bryce is bad. It’s like they all have something to prove.  

Personally, I'm quick to say Bryce is bad. I'm not quick to say he's a Bust. There's a difference. 

One says, even with a better support, he'll still be trash - aka - a bust. 

The other says, with a better support, he can be average - game manager type. Not worth the #1 and move up, but not a bust. 

We'll see what he ends up being.

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13 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

What is sad is this homeristic board refuses to say Bryce is bad. It’s like they all have something to prove.  

We don't want to admit we made one of the worst trades in NFL history for a sub-Kyle Allen prospect

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9 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Y'all falling for fancy OC's again. We need a culture changer at HC not some fancy playcaller who doesn't have a QB to make those plays work.

 

Stick to the plan Harbaugh or bust!

I'd love to have him here. But he has too many other better options and that's not even accounting for Tepper being a meddling egomaniac.

Only other option then is someone like Vrabel whom some fans here think is Ron Rivera 2.0 which is false. Beggars can't be choosers.

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3 minutes ago, emhoward said:

Personally, I'm quick to say Bryce is bad. I'm not quick to say he's a Bust. There's a difference. 

One says, even with a better support, he'll still be trash - aka - a bust. 

The other says, with a better support, he can be average - game manager type. Not worth the #1 and move up, but not a bust. 

We'll see what he ends up being.

How about just "a disappointment".....does that work?

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2 minutes ago, Jmac said:

How about just "a disappointment".....does that work?

This is where I was the first half of the year, when he had nothing to work with at all and wasn't performing. 

Toward the later half of the year when the run game picked up, Bryce was still bad. At that point "disappointing" was understating it for me. 

That said, with league average help I think he can still be a league average QB. Not that that gets anyone excited. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh god, Bryce really is a poor man's version of Allen.

Allen at least was able to string together a few good games in a row and never looked totally incompetent. Bryce... he has one good game. A great one, in fact. Best I've seen in years. But he also has 15 other ones that were bad to awful.

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