Sam Wyche compares Tebow to Montana and Esiason

[Dpantherman]

hold on, its not what you think:

Posted by Michael David Smith on February 24, 2010 10:10 AM ET

Former NFL coach Sam Wyche is one of the people who's been tasked with teaching The Golden Calf of Bristol how to transform himself from a spread-option quarterback at Florida to a pro-style passer in the NFL. And Wyche says that while The Golden Calf of Bristol has work to do, he's got a similar mental makeup to two of the quarterbacks Wyche coached in the NFL, Joe Montana and Boomer Esiason.

"He's as smart as anyone," Wyche said of The Golden Calf of Bristol, per the St. Petersburg Times. "I was around Montana and Boomer, and they would be at the top of the list of understand theory coming out of college. They understood concepts. This guy is right with them. I hope he gets a good coordinator and a good quarterback coach. If not, he'll be smarter than they are."

Wyche was the 49ers' quarterbacks coach for Montana's first four seasons and the Bengals' head coach for Esiason's first eight seasons. He says that if he were still in coaching, he'd love the chance to do with The Golden Calf of Bristol what he did with Montana and Esiason.

"Would I draft him?" Wyche said. "Absolutely. Sure. If he's not taken early, somebody is going to be called a genius for taking him wherever he goes."

Wyche acknowledged that The Golden Calf of Bristol left Florida without the passing mechanics that NFL teams want to see, but he pointed to Randall Cunningham as an example of a quarterback who overcame similar problems in the NFL. According to Wyche, it's possible to overcome the things The Golden Calf of Bristol does wrong because, "So many things are right about this guy."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/24/sam-wyche-compares-The Golden Calf of Bristol-to-montana-esiason/

-good to know hes knowledgeable on the game. But can he play it at a high level? that is the question.

[The Saltman]

baaaahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaha

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I'd take him in the third.

[CatMan72]

...but if he can't adjust to taking snaps under center and speed up his release, then all that knowledge is useless.

I'm sure Danny Wuerffel and Shane Matthews were pretty smart QB's too, what did that get them?

[Swarly]

yea.. compare a guy who has never taken a snap at a professional level, who played in a non pro offense throughout his entire career, has such a bad throwing motion/style that he won't be passing at the combine to THE greatest quarterback of all time..

in other news: Sam Wyche exposed as a moron.

[Claws]

Jeez

I dunno who's stupider. Wyche or Esiason.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Jeez

I dunno who's stupider. Wyche or Esiason.

Wow.

[Urrymonster]

yea.. compare a guy who has never taken a snap at a professional level, who played in a non pro offense throughout his entire career, has such a bad throwing motion/style that he won't be passing at the combine to THE greatest quarterback of all time..

in other news: Sam Wyche exposed as a moron.

Jeez

I dunno who's stupider. Wyche or Esiason.

This is what frustrates me as a member of this board. People look at the titles and then make irrational and aggressive comments about the quoted person.

First off he never actually compared The Golden Calf of Bristol to Montana or Boomer, he said he is right there with them for understanding theory and concepts. That translates to, he is a smart guy who can digest information and can develop good practice in the film room. In other words he will not fail due to lack of trying.

Secondly he fully acknowledged that his mechanics needed a ton of work, hence why he was working with him. Before you say anything, no he again did not compare him to Cunningham. He used Cunningham as an example of someone with dodgy mechanics who succeeded, as if to say it can happen, here is a guy who achieved it. He did NOT compare them in ability or talent.

Finally. Yes he did say he would draft him. He also said he did not know where he would be drafted and that someone could get a steal later in the draft. He has already conceded that he will fall in the draft. He knows that there are too many question marks about him. So stop thinking Wyche thinks he is going to go early purely based on how smart he is or how good his work ethic is.

This board is full of people who take extreme angles on everything. Maybe, just maybe people should actually try and diagnose what is truely being said before you jump in with your clever and smart ass remarks.

[Dpantherman]

This is what frustrates me as a member of this board. People look at the titles and then make irrational and aggressive comments about the quoted person.

First off he never actually compared The Golden Calf of Bristol to Montana or Boomer, he said he is right there with them for understanding theory and concepts. That translates to, he is a smart guy who can digest information and can develop good practice in the film room. In other words he will not fail due to lack of trying.

Secondly he fully acknowledged that his mechanics needed a ton of work, hence why he was working with him. Before you say anything, no he again did not compare him to Cunningham. He used Cunningham as an example of someone with dodgy mechanics who succeeded, as if to say it can happen, here is a guy who achieved it. He did NOT compare them in ability or talent.

Finally. Yes he did say he would draft him. He also said he did not know where he would be drafted and that someone could get a steal later in the draft. He has already conceded that he will fall in the draft. He knows that there are too many question marks about him. So stop thinking Wyche thinks he is going to go early purely based on how smart he is or how good his work ethic is.

This board is full of people who take extreme angles on everything. Maybe, just maybe people should actually try and diagnose what is truely being said before you jump in with your clever and smart ass remarks.

its kinda of the title of the article. click the link

[Urrymonster]

its kinda of the title of the article. click the link

Well aware of that, however what is quoted in the article is not the same thing. The ONLY thing he uses as a comparison is The Golden Calf of Bristol's ability to absorb concepts and theories. As in how to attack certain defenses, how to diagnose in the film room blah blah blah. Nothing to do with ability, nothing to do with how well he will play at the next level and nothing to do with how he will be as great as the other QBs he mentions.

The title is by the writer. It is common knowledge that titles are grab lines designed to draw attention. However, what Wyche said, was comparing in the loosest sense of the word. He essentially said The Golden Calf of Bristol is smart but has dodgy technique.

What happens is that people assume that what is written is what is said by the quoted person. So everyone jumped into the thread calling Wyche a moron, when in actuality the writer has used quotes and a title to paint a different picture to what was actually said.

Some people need to just slow down with their judgements.

[Dpantherman]

Well aware of that, however what is quoted in the article is not the same thing. The ONLY thing he uses as a comparison is The Golden Calf of Bristol's ability to absorb concepts and theories. As in how to attack certain defenses, how to diagnose in the film room blah blah blah. Nothing to do with ability, nothing to do with how well he will play at the next level and nothing to do with how he will be as great as the other QBs he mentions.

The title is by the writer. It is common knowledge that titles are grab lines designed to draw attention. However, what Wyche said, was comparing in the loosest sense of the word. He essentially said The Golden Calf of Bristol is smart but has dodgy technique.

What happens is that people assume that what is written is what is said by the quoted person. So everyone jumped into the thread calling Wyche a moron, when in actuality the writer has used quotes and a title to paint a different picture to what was actually said.

Some people need to just slow down with their judgements.

that is precisely the reason why I posted the disclaimer before the article. Been on this block for a minute, and I know how some ppl think. But i don't think about anymore.

[Scrumtrilescent]

Even with dodgy mechanics, Cunningham had a cannon for an arm and was much more elusive a runner than The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[rayzor]

This is what frustrates me as a member of this board. People look at the titles and then make irrational and aggressive comments about the quoted person.

First off he never actually compared The Golden Calf of Bristol to Montana or Boomer, he said he is right there with them for understanding theory and concepts. That translates to, he is a smart guy who can digest information and can develop good practice in the film room. In other words he will not fail due to lack of trying.

Secondly he fully acknowledged that his mechanics needed a ton of work, hence why he was working with him. Before you say anything, no he again did not compare him to Cunningham. He used Cunningham as an example of someone with dodgy mechanics who succeeded, as if to say it can happen, here is a guy who achieved it. He did NOT compare them in ability or talent.

Finally. Yes he did say he would draft him. He also said he did not know where he would be drafted and that someone could get a steal later in the draft. He has already conceded that he will fall in the draft. He knows that there are too many question marks about him. So stop thinking Wyche thinks he is going to go early purely based on how smart he is or how good his work ethic is.

This board is full of people who take extreme angles on everything. Maybe, just maybe people should actually try and diagnose what is truely being said before you jump in with your clever and smart ass remarks.

good points. agreed. too much just reading of the thread title and not enough reading what was actually said.

about wyche's comments...pretty interesting. hadn't heard anything about that. i think right now is the first chance that people are going to get to see what this kid actually knows. everyone knows that the way he played in college won't work well in the pros. the discussion has largely revolved around can he learn to play at a pro level? if the intelligence and work ethic is there, i have little reason to believe that he won't be able to make that adjustment.

at any rate...he won't be a starter out of the gate. if he goes in the first round that is going to be expected unless he goes to a team with an already solid QB presence in place (like aaron rodgers going to green bay and phillip rivers going to san diego). 2nd or 3rd round he's most likely going to be a relatively low risk/high reward type acquisition.

[Claws]

Wow.

Why you wowing me?

I realize Esiason wasn't interviewed but he's pretty damned stupid in his own. Hence, my remark.